[WMarshal]

Whatever is left of Ukraine at the end of this invasion is most certainly going to be aligned with NATO. About a month or so ago it was mentioned that there is the option for Ukraine to seed back to Poland the portions of Poland that were stolen from Poland by the Soviet Union.

And Russia will have gained a defensible land bridge to its warm water port on the Crimean Peninsula, all of eastern Ukraine east of the Dnieper River, and Control of the gas fields in the northern Black Sea coast at the very least.

That is an Obama/Biden “win” if I have ever seen one

[Renfrew]

And what has Russia lost? They have lost any chance at good relations with the west.

Who then will defend Russia when China steadily vassalizes them over the next decades?