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Shocking Lessons U.S. Military Leaders Learned by Watching Putin's Invasion
Newsweek ^ | March 1, 2022 | William M. Arkin

Posted on 03/02/2022 5:53:33 AM PST by C19fan

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To: C19fan
Don't count on it.
One report says this wave were inexperienced troops, the next wave will be elite.

21 posted on 03/02/2022 6:13:18 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: C19fan
Thanks, but why just post one sentence? FReepers evidence they usually do not follow links, and up to 300 words are usually allowed for excerpts.
After just one day of fighting, Russia's ground force lost most of its initial momentum, undermined by shortages of fuel, ammunition and even food, but also because of a poorly trained and led force. Russia began to compensate for the weaknesses of its land army with more long-range air, missile and artillery strikes. And President Putin resorted to a nuclear threat—a reaction, U.S. military experts say, to the failure of Moscow's conventional forces to make quick progress on the ground..
U.S. intelligence sources pointed out to Newsweek that while the Russian ground forces have been surprisingly sluggish and uncoordinated, they were also severely constrained in their initial attack by the Kremlin's strategy and objectives.

22 posted on 03/02/2022 6:15:13 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: C19fan
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claims in three days of fighting that some 700 Russian vehicles were destroyed, disabled or had been abandoned, including 150 tanks. Some 40 Russian aircraft and helicopters were shot down (and some crashed). In one incident, a Ukrainian Su-27 "Flanker" fighter jet shot down a Russian transport plane carrying occupation troops into the country. By the end of Day Three, Russia claimed that the number of Ukrainian "aimpoints" at targets attacked had doubled to 820, including 14 airfields and 48 air defense installations. Russia also claimed that 87 Ukrainian tanks "and other targets" were destroyed on the battlefield.

23 posted on 03/02/2022 6:17:49 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"Taking a country intact is much more difficult that blowing everything up!"

Agreed. We have wasted a lot of personel and treasure and pretty much ended up losing every "limited" war where we have tried to do the same.

24 posted on 03/02/2022 6:19:29 AM PST by bruoz
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To: C19fan

One thing I have read is Russian still has the rigid top down leadership structure where subordinate commanders have very little leeway in trying to meet objectives.

Which sounds like most every organization, military or otherwise, on the planet. Rigid top-down completely describes the panic response to Covid in the U.S.


25 posted on 03/02/2022 6:20:21 AM PST by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer)
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According to U.S. intelligence sources, about 1,000 Russian troops have been killed or severely wounded each day of fighting. Ukrainian military deaths are estimated to be the same (about 3,000 total), demonstrating the intensity of the ground fighting at the forward edge...Russia's nuclear threat lurks behind all of this—a threat that no one in Washington conceived of, and one, according to defense experts, that has now spooked the administration. -https://www.newsweek.com/shocking-lessons-us-military-leaders-learned-watching-putins-invasion-1683625

26 posted on 03/02/2022 6:23:34 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Red Badger
Tanks and APCs are useless..........................

Terrific weapons if you're fighting in the trenches of Belgium and France a hundred years ago.

27 posted on 03/02/2022 6:27:27 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Sirius Lee

‘Generals are always preparing to fight the last war.’.......Anon.................


28 posted on 03/02/2022 6:31:21 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: C19fan

Bkmk


29 posted on 03/02/2022 6:34:29 AM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Agreed. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.


30 posted on 03/02/2022 6:35:51 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: C19fan
Meh, Russell Ziskey had them pegged years ago...


31 posted on 03/02/2022 6:35:53 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: D Rider

Look at what they did in Georgia, I believe this is the exact approach they are taking in Ukraine. Georgia is still an “independent” Country today, but they are on a leash.


32 posted on 03/02/2022 6:37:40 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Imagine leftists lecturing us on military tactics”

We don’t have to imagine it—it is happening right now 24/7 on the Mockingbird mass media.

Everything they say is lies.

Every time.


33 posted on 03/02/2022 6:39:56 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: D Rider

“You can see it in Russian target selection. They are purposely not targeting infrastructure.”

Wut?

03/01 Iskander missile strike on Kharkiv’s administrative building:

https://youtu.be/d6PaUsfVnRo?t=6


34 posted on 03/02/2022 6:41:28 AM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

I read over how Russia invaded Georgia in 2005, and it seems they are following the same blueprint.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War


35 posted on 03/02/2022 6:42:59 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Justa

And for all those NeoCons who complain about Trump and think Dumbya would have handled Putin any better....WRONG!

George W. Bush Was Tough on Russia? Give Me a Break.

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/george-w-bush-was-tough-on-russia-give-me-a-break/


36 posted on 03/02/2022 6:45:05 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: C19fan

Please... first its “NEWSWEAK”...

Second, Russia may haver thought they could just march into Kiev in a few days, assuming little to no resistance, and that may not be what’s happening, but the idea that they are “in trouble” is comical.

It’s clear, that for whatever reason Russia has not utilized its air superiority in this campaign, and for whatever reason is trying its best NOT to just level the Ukraine.

All it would take would be a few bombing runs to flatten Kiev, clearly this is not what Russia wants to do... but claiming because they didn’t do this, and are for whatever reasons slowly marching toward the capital on the ground vs just obliterating forces through the air, does not mean that Russia is not capable.

I have said this before, and I’ll say it again...

EVERYTHING, and I do mean EVERYTHING your are reading, seeing or hearing is PROPAGANDA regarding this situation by one side or the other.


37 posted on 03/02/2022 6:47:09 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: BitWielder1

They may not have enough “elite” to count as a “wave”. Their army only has professional cadres, leading conscripts, other than for a few special forces units.


38 posted on 03/02/2022 6:50:22 AM PST by buwaya
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To: C19fan
The Red Army had a simple doctrine for it's officers in WW2. It went like this: “If you take the objective we give you a medal. If you don't we shoot you''. There's motivation for you.
39 posted on 03/02/2022 6:55:52 AM PST by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Fido969

“A lot easier to “hold” territory that way.”

Let the front-line troops “play through,” then bring out the Javelins and cached weapons and hit them from behind.


40 posted on 03/02/2022 6:57:01 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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