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I think the US is backing the wrong side in the Ukraine invasion
Self / Freerepublic | 03 March 2022 | Self

Posted on 03/01/2022 8:22:34 PM PST by ShadowAce

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To: ShadowAce

Take a long look at a map of Russia just after Catherine the greats reign.

That is what Putin wants.

There were just a very few countries in power in continental Europe at that time and Russia was a major power. There were no other countries.


21 posted on 03/01/2022 8:33:20 PM PST by crz
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To: ShadowAce

Might have agreed until Putin said Ukraine had no right to exist. This is basically the exact same thing Hitler said about Czechoslovakia. He wants to make Ukraine a Russian “Protectorate”.


22 posted on 03/01/2022 8:33:22 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sam_whiskey
Putin was not chosen by the people to lead his country.

I never said the people chose him. I said he was chosen.

23 posted on 03/01/2022 8:33:23 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

Ukraine asked for NATO membership in 2004. It was them begging to get in all these years.


24 posted on 03/01/2022 8:34:16 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Secret Agent Man

Correct. Putin, as described in Russian media, envisions a new world order where “the 500 year domination of the Anglo-Saxons is over”, a Russia extended to the boundaries of the pre-Revolution Russian empire, and power divided among the EU, Russia, China, with lesser power centers in Africa and South America.


25 posted on 03/01/2022 8:35:17 PM PST by mak5
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To: dfwgator

Why should he they hate him and he knows that.


26 posted on 03/01/2022 8:36:13 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
Congrats, because you are now on over 50% of this boards sh!t list! They buy into the media narrative.

I wouldn't sweat it too much. For God's sake, we still have morons on here supporting the COVID narrative and pushing the death jabs. Some people simply can't fight against the television.
27 posted on 03/01/2022 8:36:50 PM PST by fr_freak ( )
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To: ShadowAce

You want to back Putin. He was given false information. On something this big?
How far do you want to back him? 20 years? To Germany?


28 posted on 03/01/2022 8:36:53 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: ShadowAce

Why any side? They’re all thugs. None of our business.


29 posted on 03/01/2022 8:37:05 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2 (Widespread belief in asymptomatic spread of a low-risk virus hastened the end of the West by 100 yrs)
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To: ShadowAce

The Russian people didn’t choose Putin.


30 posted on 03/01/2022 8:37:09 PM PST by roving
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To: TornadoAlley3

See post #29. We shouldn’t be backing, or promoting, either side here.


31 posted on 03/01/2022 8:38:32 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: roving

Post #23


32 posted on 03/01/2022 8:38:50 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

> I have come to believe that the US is backing the wrong side in the Ukrainian invasion... <

The key word in that phrase is “invasion”. Putin had a legitimate concern regarding the expansion of NATO. But as soon as he invaded a sovereign country, everything else became secondary.

Putin is now killing people and breaking things. He no longer deserves any sympathy or support.


33 posted on 03/01/2022 8:39:05 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: ShadowAce

I agree with you and will add that the US was the aggressor. We made a deal to not move NATO one inch closer to Russia, to allow Ukraine to become part of the organization is tantamount to a declaration of war. We are not at war with Russia, at least we weren’t when Hillary and her band of gypsys sold them a shite ton of our Uranium, just about 5-6 years ago. Barak mOsluma, was all in in their grills. He did everything but hum a tune on someones flute during his time negotiating with them. Now suddenly the long knives are out to get him.

Speaking of War Crimes, what do you call that number we did in Libya? Wasn’t Khaddafy our ally in the WOT? We came we saw, He died..cackle cackle cackle our Secretary of State Hildabeast Rodham said with obvious glee.


34 posted on 03/01/2022 8:39:12 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: ShadowAce

I’m going to bed. I’ll catch up here in the morning.


35 posted on 03/01/2022 8:39:28 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

You don’t blow up children just because the government is “corrupt”.There are a lot of corrupt countries around, does that mean they need to be taken over?


36 posted on 03/01/2022 8:39:35 PM PST by kaktuskid
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To: ShadowAce

Pooty-Poot was “forced l” to invade, huh?
What a crock of bovine excrement.
Pooty, the KGB puke thug, wannabe USSR reviver, invaded Ukraine over natural resources and the desire to have full access over the Black Sea.
Anything else, any excuses, is crap.


37 posted on 03/01/2022 8:39:35 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: ShadowAce

In the meantime, intelligence reports are coming in of a higher-than-normal popcorn microwaving in the Jinping residence.


38 posted on 03/01/2022 8:40:53 PM PST by anthropocene_x
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To: ShadowAce

I think we’re in a tough spot here, thanks to Joe.

If U.S. or NATO joins the fight, nukes are sure to fly.

Total shutdown of Russian economy through sanctions would also create big problems, ie, like cutting off oil to Japan in 1941.

We can’t let Russia take neighboring countries for free.

But we have an idiot for commander-in-chief.

Biden’s holding a pair of deuces.

Putin’s probably holding 2-7 but going all in anyway with squinty eyes telegraphing you want war?


39 posted on 03/01/2022 8:41:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: roving

Neither did the American people choose Bai’ din


40 posted on 03/01/2022 8:41:52 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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