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Tired of Trump! I'm So Ready For Someone Else!

Posted on 02/26/2022 8:31:44 PM PST by redheadedshannon

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To: vivenne

Felt good to voice my opinion. Thanks!! God Bless.


521 posted on 02/28/2022 4:45:46 AM PST by navymom1
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To: Olog-hai

How many established illegal families did Trump deport in four years? I’m not talking about MS13 type animals. Let’s look at a typical illegal who has been a roofer in Indianapolis for ten years and his family. Trump has yet to deport the first family of this type. Trump stopped illegal immigration but when was he going to begin the deportation of some 20 million people. Who would have taken that roofer’s job last week if he and family were on their way to Honduras? What exactly was Trump’s plan for those millions and the economic impact of losing millions of needed workers? I’m not trying to bait you, I never heard Trump’s plan. He absolutely did not take the first step in the four years he was there. What’s the plan and what was the timetable for the massive deportations?


522 posted on 02/28/2022 4:59:50 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

You must think we have only one branch of government. Never mind only one government and no state governments. Never mind no RINOs that would ever stymie Trump’s agenda at federal, state and local levels.


523 posted on 02/28/2022 5:05:10 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: vivenne; bagster

Well laid out argument?
It was one sentence.
I was addressing you not bagster.
I think he can take care of himself.


524 posted on 02/28/2022 5:14:02 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: GranTorino

Yes. Your response was to Bagster and I was referencing his numerous posts that laid out “arguements” as you call them and your response of “Whatever.” You call for arguments, and you have nothing not “Whatever” as a response. Not sure what you want, and I’m not sure anything will satisfy you.


525 posted on 02/28/2022 5:21:20 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: hardspunned
You want to list some successes (standing today) Trump had against the swamp.

I wouldn't expect a child like you to understand, but off the top of my head, Paul Ryan and Epstein for starters.

For bonus points, tell me why Ryan resigned and what Epstein has to do with the Deep State.

Your move, normie.


526 posted on 02/28/2022 6:30:26 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Olog-hai

Never mind Trump was fighting 2 impeachments, massive corruption, Draining the swamp, or a Vice President who was a Rino asset as we all discovered January 2021.

The bot you are arguing with criticises you for thinking Trump super human while at the same time criticises Trump for NOT being super human. The argument is set up not to listen to any facts or logical disagreement, but to win while putting you down. Don’t give the Bot anymore. It isn’t worth you valuable time or reasoned thinking.


527 posted on 02/28/2022 7:54:23 AM PST by navymom1
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To: vivenne

Okey, dokey. You make no sense, so engaging with you is a waste of my time.

IOW you can't refute any of the facts I presented. Have a blessed day.

528 posted on 02/28/2022 8:23:02 AM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: bagster

I can have no respect for a man who gets beat up like a little b*tch in his own front yard while mowing the lawn

OK, let's review Trump's accomplishments vs what he promised us:

Locking Killary up? Nope, she's still at large.

Border wall? Less than halfway complete after 4 years of Trump.

Lower taxes? My taxes went nowhere but up during Trump's presidency.

Lower deficit? We were at $1 trillion before the pandemic.

Great Supreme Court picks? We've seen how they've turned out.

Getting us out of Afghanistan? No, that was left for Xiden to bungle.

This is not even getting into his mixed messages on the vaccine, something on which Paul has never wavered.

Now if Trump had accomplished even ONE thing on the above list, I would not be writing this now. I don't care if a politician is the kind of guy I'd want to be around or not.

Sure, Trump "owned the libs". But I can do that just as easily from the comfort of my own keyboard. I don't need a President to do that. I do need a President who gets stuff done that I am not in a position to do. All politicians are employees of We the People. If I were a business owner and one of my employees accomplished none of the things he said he would do when I hired him, but always found time to go on Twitter and pick fights with his fellow employees as well as the opposition, I wouldn't renew his contract either.

I do not blame Trump for Democratic obstruction. But the GOP controlled Congress from 2016 to 2018. As a Republican president it was his job to unite the party behind him, not throw up his hands and whine about the mean, mean RINOs. With Trump, there is always some excuse why it is not his fault that he failed to live up to his campaign promises. That makes him the whiny little b*tch in my book.

529 posted on 02/28/2022 8:37:55 AM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: bagster

Also, blaming Rand Paul for his neighbor’s actions is illogical. We are all responsible for our own actions, but not other people’s.


530 posted on 02/28/2022 8:41:16 AM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: FormerFRLurker

And I’m STILL going to vote for him in the primary in my state and for President in 2024.....

There’s a lot I could argue about your points-against but why bother? You do you, fella....I’ll do me.


531 posted on 02/28/2022 8:42:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: FormerFRLurker

What facts? Precisely the reason I didn’t engage. Additionally. I don’t find it wise or productive to engage with what I consider to be what amounts to gibberish. As the poster above stated, the statements, or facts as you call them, contracted each other even in the same post by the same posters. I didn’t find anything you said to be anything to be anything to counter as it was, uh, confusing. I will say that I, like others here, thought I was talking to trolls and bots. Why would I engage other than to try to smoke them out? My overall response to the thread is that we need a big picture, strategic planner as a leader. The posters her are way caught up in the weeds, trying to debate minutae.


532 posted on 02/28/2022 8:48:24 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: FormerFRLurker

Do you honestly think that the GOPe in Congress were going to let Trump “unite” them???!!! Haha! They were against him before he stepped foot in the oval office. Why? Simply because he was not owned by them and like them. When did Trump whine about them, and if he did, do you not understand by now what was going on that impeded Trumps ability to do his job? Seriously, do uou kot understand that?


533 posted on 02/28/2022 8:56:02 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: vivenne

Also known as the biggest political scandals in history. Bigger than Watergate.


534 posted on 02/28/2022 8:57:40 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: redheadedshannon

you are sincerely stupid as hell.


535 posted on 02/28/2022 9:01:21 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: vivenne

What facts?

Um, the fact that Hillary Clinton is not in jail, the border wall is not complete, we didn't leave Afghanistan until Xiden took over, and our deficit was $1 trillion before anyone had ever heard of COVID, for starters. These are all easily observable facts.

As the poster above stated, the statements, or facts as you call them, contracted each other even in the same post by the same posters.

Where do I contradict myself?

536 posted on 02/28/2022 9:02:38 AM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: vivenne

Do you honestly think that the GOPe in Congress were going to let Trump “unite” them???!!! Haha! They were against him before he stepped foot in the oval office. Why? Simply because he was not owned by them and like them. When did Trump whine about them, and if he did, do you not understand by now what was going on that impeded Trumps ability to do his job? Seriously, do uou kot understand that?

Both on the campaign trail and in his book "The Art of the Deal" Trump presented himself as a "master negotiator". No matter how you spin it, said "master negotiator" failed where even dumb-as-rocks W succeeded in cutting taxes. I don't care what label you attach to a Republican. I care about getting stuff done.

537 posted on 02/28/2022 9:07:33 AM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: bagster

Pathetic try. In other words YOU CAN’T because they’re all gone, like farts in the wind. No, it’s not my move. I’m still waiting on your list of Trump successes. If you can’t name any, don’t bother me with your lame deflections and cult of personality BS.


538 posted on 02/28/2022 9:27:02 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: FormerFRLurker

So, don’t vote for Trump. Vote for someone who meets your standards. Maybe a Bill Kristol/Liz Cheney ticket?


539 posted on 02/28/2022 9:28:30 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: hardspunned

I think your tag line gives you away.


540 posted on 02/28/2022 9:30:16 AM PST by vivenne (")
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