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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled The PCR Scam: PCR Does Not Detect SARS-CoV-2., dadfly wrote:

wow, for me this one is a hot mess.

basically, if i read this right (and it’s poorly written for sure because i initially got the impression from the title that it’s proposing that PCR “doesn’t work” which is nonsense, of course), i think it may be saying Drosten doesn’t know how to do PCR, which is entirely possible. the CDC didn’t know how to either, releasing a test that flat out didn’t work, i.e. didn’t implement a valid PCR process, as verified by our medical school and virology labs back in early 2020. it forced our lab and medical school to sequence the virus and develop it’s own “home grown” PCR test, in house.

anyway, the virology lab my relation works in uses PCR correctly for what it was meant to be used for; that is, to amplify specific genetic material. if it’s there, PCR will find it/amplify it and only it. that’s it. that’s all that PCR can do and that is solely what it was designed to do. it doesn’t tell you how it got there. or exactly how much was there. it can give you a quantitative estimate, with RT PCR, but it’s not exact and can’t be taken as such and is useless as many here have pointed out if too many cycles are used.

as such it’s used as a only screening test. other confirmatory tests have to be deployed, examinations, judgement, etc. etc., for an MD to sign off on any diagnosis.

but, for what it does, and if properly engineered as a test, PCR works very well.

The PCR does not work as a diagnostic test, it cannot diagnose the presence of disease.

The inventor of the PCR said that it cannot be used to diagnose any disease. He said it was a laboratory tool. Basically the PCR detects small amounts of material in a sample that would otherwise be missed and exaggerates the amount present to give researchers a chance to find otherwise overlooked material.

So if someone was exposed to a virus, a month ago but the body defeated it, there may still be fragments of the virus left that the PCR would essentially concentrate. Not knowing viral load is a 'hot mess'. Even fragments of unrelated viruses can be the reason why the useless Covid PCR tests positive.

The CDC knowingly used too many cycles to detect much more than debris of unknown sources. The PCR tested Paw Paw, Coca Cola and Kiwi positive for Covid.

Dr. Michael Yeadon, formerly a Chief of Science officer at Pfizer said the PCR has greater than 90% false positives and an unknown number of false negatives. Our enemies intentionally used a test that can't work in order to control the narrative, which worked.

There is no isolated sample of Covid virus to use as a reference. The PCR, which cannot diagnose disease was based off of standard coronaviruses as a result. Even the CDC admits it did not base the PCR on Covid.

ok, i guess we disagree to some extent. to inform others on what i believe i know about PCR, i’ll make one more post, hopefully to clarify to others.

it is a screening test, and it works as that. it does eliminate the presence of specific sequences in a sample.

in the context of multiple PCR tests (reflex tests are ordered automatically on positive) or other confirmatory tests, you can be sure what you’re looking for is absent.
in the context of multiple PCR tests correctly collected, you can and should trust the result for an active infection only. long term, PCR has no value. the creation of that sample is entirely a different matter. all kinds of things can go wrong at the collection stage.

we do, i think, agree that alone, it doesn’t “diagnose” anything. that is done in conjunction with further confirmatory tests and finally by the judgement of an MD. when it’s used standalone as it has been by the CDC during this sad episode to infer a diagnosis, it is medical fraud.

if you are saying anything else than that. i.e., any blanket statement that PCR can’t be used as a “test” under any circumstances to help diagnose disease or even that it’s not a valid method or some such nonsense. you’re dead wrong and possibly misleading people about PCR, which is why i felt the need to comment.

it’s used everyday at the medical school for research to **test** basic research hypotheses by determining the absence of predicted analytes or genetic material during experimentation, and it’s used everyday in the lab as one of a battery of 100’s of ***tests*** ordered by doctors all over the area not to just investigate the ccp virus, but for many other scientific purposes, among them to diagnose illness.

with that have the last word if you want. i’ve made my point and hopefully clarified.