[SunkenCiv]

In the last week the Director of ESA has called for Europe to stop mucking around and actually develop a human spaceflight capability, my words not his. Europe has one of the best funded space programs in the world and yet decades on from flying its first astronaut ESA has yet to develop a way to launch crew without relying on the USA or Russia.

But in the 1980's they spent a lot of money and time trying to develop a small spaceplane named Hermes, which ultimately failed after the International space station removed any need for independent access to space.

Why European Astronauts Have To Hitch A Ride to Space | February 21, 2022 | Scott Manley

[AndyJackson]

Always thinking. Always trying new things. Always going with what works. Sounds like winning. Sounds like what the US used to be like before we went woke.

[butlerweave]

Musk is always saying , NOPE DO BETTER

[BitWielder1]

Musk is a pioneer, he experiments, he takes risks, not everything will work out but he can turn on a dime and re-think when needed, something NASA is unable to do.