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To: paladinkc

PhD scientist checking in...

Ammonia stores more hydrogen by mass and in smaller volume as a liquid at room temp than hydrogen does as a cryogenic liquid at 4 degrees above absolute zero. Its the ideal hydrogen storage medium. It us handled everyday all over the world in millions of tonne per year quantities. Its not for home use the average person is an idiot and will burn their lungs out eventually, but with proper OSHA procedures and safe guards its perfectly safe for industrial use.

https://www.science.org/content/article/ammonia-renewable-fuel-made-sun-air-and-water-could-power-globe-without-carbon

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acssuschemeng.7b03159#:~:text=The%20process%20uses%20wind%20energy,process%20catalyst%20to%20make%20ammonia.

https://arpa-e.energy.gov/technologies/projects/wind-energy-ammonia-synthesis

https://www.powermag.com/mitsubishi-power-developing-100-ammonia-capable-gas-turbine/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/from-fertilizer-to-fuel-can-green-ammonia-be-a-climate-fix

These are the two largest manufacturers of marine diesels what they do the entire industry will.follow.

https://www.man-es.com/discover/two-stroke-ammonia-engine

https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2234110-wartsila-targets-ammoniaready-engine-in-2023


8 posted on 02/20/2022 11:34:51 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Be vewee vewee cahfull.


9 posted on 02/20/2022 11:40:44 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Lol, without exact conditions the emissions of those engines is N2O. That should make us all seem real happy...


11 posted on 02/20/2022 11:48:05 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Happy to see someone who’s educated on the subject and handing out good information. Thanks!

I’m most decidedly NOT educated in that field, but I had always hoped we’d exploit hydrogen as a fuel in vehicles, and if this is a viable medium, you know the government will try to sweep it under the rug. They’ve already invested too much into other alternatives, if you can even call them that at this point given affordability of the product and the current “refueling” infrastructure, to want to invest in something else.

If people knew how truly environmentally unfriendly the mining for the metals in those batteries really is, the greenies would lose their collective sh!t. Kind of like how solar panels are prone to breakage and short life spans (incrementally creating less energy every year, plus a total lack of overall effectiveness), and how the blades of those windmills also have short life spans, and need to be dumped somewhere when they fall apart. They can’t exactly be refurbisbed and reused just for safety reasons alone.


19 posted on 02/20/2022 12:20:38 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Liquid ammonia, not ammonium hydroxide, requires refrigeration for storage and manufacturing, but nowhere near the amount of refrigeration needed for liquid hydrogen. I know this because I prepared some in freshman chemistry lab decades ago.


22 posted on 02/20/2022 12:35:18 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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