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To: LS

The question is why did the Founders insist that Congress and the VP certify the election results?

If not to reject fraudulent elections than why do those powers exist?


8 posted on 02/06/2022 7:35:16 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

If the states with “problems” had sent competing slates of electors Pence, etc. would have had precedent to stand on. Without that that those states were saying ‘yeah it’s a smelly single slate but we still say it’s ok’. Effectively they were saying they were fine with fraud and why not we’ve let it go on in those areas for decades because of fear of the race card. Now it cost us!


15 posted on 02/06/2022 7:42:22 AM PST by Reily
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To: Renfrew

Because, those guys, coming from where they did, having just gone through a war, with a desire for freedom, NEVER thought that the government they created would ever be so incredibly and inexplicably corrupt.

They actually thought that our elected officials would stately true to the citizen-statesman ideal and not subvert the country to get rich and do the bidding of their donors, the Chamber of Commerce, the Kochs, Wall St and China.


16 posted on 02/06/2022 7:43:55 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Renfrew
The question is why did the Founders insist that Congress and the VP certify the election results?

They didn't. Instead, they directed that the electors themselves should sign and certify their ballots and deliver them sealed to Congress. Here are the roles the Founders specified for Congress and the VP:

VP: As President of the Senate, the VP is to count the electoral votes delivered to him, in the presence of both houses of Congress.

House and Senate: Are to listen to the count read by the vice-president.

That's it. There is nothing in the Constitution about the VP or Congress certifying anything. They are there to read and listen to what the electoral voters tell them.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/
20 posted on 02/06/2022 7:47:53 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Renfrew
How dare you inject logic into our current political system.

You must be a running dog of capitalism.

24 posted on 02/06/2022 7:52:21 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Who is Ray Epps?)
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To: Renfrew

You write: “The question is why did the Founders insist that Congress and the VP certify the election results?
If not to reject fraudulent elections than why do those powers exist?”

Precisely! However, the founding fathers could in no way imagine the cowardice of a Congress or Vice President unable to respond to an obviously fraudulent election.


29 posted on 02/06/2022 8:05:49 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Renfrew

You write: “The question is why did the Founders insist that Congress and the VP certify the election results?
If not to reject fraudulent elections than why do those powers exist?”

Precisely! However, the founding fathers could in no way imagine the cowardice of a Congress or Vice President unable to respond to an obviously fraudulent election.


31 posted on 02/06/2022 8:06:22 AM PST by Bookshelf
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