Posted on 02/02/2022 9:14:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Probably 70% of current college students should not be going. No real value add.
You mean that degree in afrocentric gender diversity isn’t really gonna make any money? :-{
My son is in one of those creepy covid college camps—a freshman at Cal State pursuing a BS in Computer Science. He loves to program, and already knows how and in fact worked 2 coding jobs last year, and he doesn’t NEED that degree per se, but many companies still won’t hire programmers without it. He likes his Computer Science classes a lot, and tunes out of the indoctrination GEs.
I’m thankful that his Cal State campus was one of only SIX that reopened in person this semester. Just six of 23 campuses. He does terrible with “remote learning.”
Navy schools, best education in the world. And 4 years in the military will inoculate you against most of the absurdity if you still want to go to college after that.
That’s what I think, anyway. I wasn’t in the navy, but I worked with a lot of guys who were.
but many companies still won’t hire programmers without it.
***HR is where all those humanities majors ended up. HR is the problem.
The problem is there are no easy and obvious options - the education-industrial complex has so propagandized everyone, from government to schools to teachers to parents and students - and such huge protected interests have grown up around the education-industrial complex - that is still seems like the only obvious choice to most people.
Smart kids and parents look at other options - but those parents and kids are a definite minority.
We need to completely restructure the education system. It’s madness to allow a young naïve student to take on $100k in debt for a worthless degree. The universities just take the money, they don’t care and have no skin in the game. Maybe the cost of the tuition should be proportional to the market value of the degree(?)...plus the amount that can be taken as a loan might be proportional to a degrees value. The value a degree in the workforce should be made blindingly obvious. Maybe these institutions should be required to publish/email reports per semester about degrees and market value.
Maybe they should be the source of the loans...get the government out! What we have is a source of funding (government) of loans at higher interest rates than other private loan providers to entities that prey on those that believe any degree is valuable and keep raising prices so long as governments keep handing out the loans.
It all makes no sense whatsoever - it ends up funding “hate studies” types of degrees and the indoctrination of young minds toward garbage.
To push my thought a little further, when I meet a kid with a degree that doesn’t translate into a job, like Geography or something, I usually tell them to go see the navy recruiter; he’ll know what to do with you.
They never listen, but that’s what I tell them.
We will not be able to compete in the future if most of our smart people refuse to be educated.
We need good STEM people. We do not need a single new diversity studies major.
And for training, that died and is dead.
Take a young person. Train them up with a skill. Give them a hands on education. Invest thousands of dollars and a lot of man hours into them. Then watch them walk out the door for a $0.50 hr raise. Because you are training your competition.
That was the speech given to me by a senior manager once. He was requiring a degree for lab techs, and I was telling him if they can follow a cookie recipe I can teach them the test. He said “Red, if you train our competition I will fire you!”
How long ago?
Most recent vets I worked with are more woke than recent college grads. You have to be to survive.
“most of our smart people refuse to be educated.”
The problem is the the dumb ones blowing a 120k on futile attempts to be educated.
To no ones surprise, liberals have ruined education. They have made it pretty much free to everyone with grants and loans coupled with a vast supply of worthless degrees. With the stream of cash from taxpayers, the schools have expanded and hired liberal scum to “teach.” No job after these idiots who borrowed $100K for a degree in basket weaving get out. What I have to pay that back??? No worries, vote for the democrats and they will forgive the loans. wallah, the ponzi scheme is complete.
Yet again democrats have hooked people on the candy from the fed gov.
As long as colleges keep adding fluff meaningless “degrees”, yes, on the whole college degrees are worthless.
Why “history” or “English” even have to be broken into super specialties is absurd. Those are the most useless degrees outside arts.
I work part-time for AutoZone. I am a hub driver and I have met and interacted with employees at 16 stores. There are some really good young people out there and I am happy to see them jumping into something practical and learning an important and necessary business and good customer service skills.
There really is a refreshing change taking place in how young people are looking to get started in their early working lives.
I graduated from a university years ago but I don’t see today’s colleges being the right practical choice for many young people.
I am the ancient one but I see promising young people heading down the right track.
My theory is that college enrollment exploded in the mid to late 1980s after movies such as Porkies and Animal House came out. After that a whole lot of people sought college for that type of experience. Coupled with “free” government Pell grants and other subsidies, college enrollment exploded into the current massive leftwing bureaucratic monolith it is today.
If you want to hire a plumber, electrician or HVAC tech, you will have to do more than putting up a flyer offering $30k a year.
Even STEM is wrecked. Young engineers these days have no common sense and could not math their way out of a paper bag. By far the worst programmers on the planet have computer degrees, and dont get me started on plc programmers with degrees in automation who can’t program, do math, and are completely clueless about mechanical systems or thermodynamics or anything else remotely sciency.
Yeah, they send you off to college, try to gain a little knowledge,
But all you want to do is learn how to score
-Jimmy Buffett (Pencil-Thin Moustache)
My oldest son went one semester and hated it. He became a police officer and loves it. My daughter took to college like a duck to water and will graduate in the spring as a nurse. My youngest son went one year and decided I’m wasting money because I don’t know what I want to do and dropped out. I said that’s fine but you go to work and he took a full time job as a butcher in a local meat department.
I think the trades are the way to go for many who don’t want the typical college track. One to two years and you get your certification a in HVAC, plumbing, welding etc... The old guard college instructors snort in derision at such things but they are stuck in 1990.
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