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My most recent electric bill charged $00.16 per kWh Including all tax, additional fees, hidden graft... Subject to change.

Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.

1 posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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Why is it there is so much emotional dumb bull#$%^ surrounding EVs?

A: because it is seen as a stalking horse for the “climate change/global warming” crowd.

Here are the facts:

EVs should stand or fall based on their (1) Quality (2) Price (3) Performance and (4) User experience. NOT on CO2, Global Warming, Political, Tax Credits, etc.

If they do, it’s OLD FASHIONED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.

If you don’t want an EV, don’t buy one.

I have a 2019 Mustang GT California Special, and a Ford F 150-8 with 300CI Coyote V8. Two REALLY good vehicles.

I also have a Tesla CyberTruck on order. Do I care which one uses Gas or Electric? No, I buy on range, price, cost to operate, experience, etc.

Why did I order a CyberTruck?

A: I paid $71.37 yesterday to fill up the F-150. I get about 340 miles range on a tank. At my house I pay 9.7 cents/KWH for electricity. @100 KWH, it would cost me $9.70 to recharge the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck list is ~ what I paid for the F-150. Except the Cybertruck is FASTER 0 to Sixty than my Mustang GT with Manual Transmission. I plan to recharge overnight, and only use superchargers when I am driving long distances. I live in Dallas, and sometimes travel to Austin, Houston, Tyler, etc. There are superchargers along the way, and the peak rate for v3 supercharges (actual vs quoted) is 810 miles charged/hour. So, my typical stop for supercharging somewhere between Dallas and Austin/Houston would be 20 minutes, where I would add 270 miles.....During that 20 minutes I would grab a drink, go to the bathroom, stretch my legs, etc....Newflash - I do this when driving with my GT or F-150. Stop somewhere, gas up, go to the bathroom, etc. I don’t like driving more than 300 miles at a sitting.

So, what does all this mean? I buy a car for TRANSPORTATION, not for sending a message or politics.

Lastly, the self-driving technology being developed by every major car company on the planet is a way bigger deal than EVs. Do you realize you can make a gas car self-driving just as easy? It will disrupt the automotive market way more than battery powered electric.

Also, did you know the first cars were steam and electric primary, until the big boys got together and did gasoline engines? The first gas engines were inferior to steam and electric for 20 years! We have spent 100’s of Billions developing the gasoline engine (not that there is anything wrong with that). The innovation is just beginning in electric.

If batteries continue to improve at the rate and lowered cost they have in the last 10 years, we are on track to have 500-1000 mile range for a battery cost of 10-15k in < 10 years. This is conservative. Aluminum-Air can get a range of 3000-5000 miles, but cannot (so far) be in-place recharged.


98 posted on 01/30/2022 12:27:17 PM PST by BereanBrain
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EVs for the homeless!


103 posted on 01/30/2022 12:30:43 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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The “man will never fly” crew will be out in force on this thread. They are more obsessed with ev’s then any of my friends who drive them. The Tesla owners I know couldn’t care less about global warming or what kind of car others choose to drive.


119 posted on 01/30/2022 1:03:13 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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EVs are fun toys for the Early Adopters, but that’s all they’ll ever be.


166 posted on 01/30/2022 2:18:40 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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178 posted on 01/30/2022 3:02:38 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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Let me know when you can charge a battery in the same time you can fill a gas tank.


198 posted on 01/30/2022 4:35:06 PM PST by cp124 (Living under medical tyranny. )
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