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Woman Sneaks Ivermectin Into Hospital, Saves Husband's Life
PJ Media ^ | 01/26/2022 | Kevin Downey Jr.

Posted on 01/27/2022 9:01:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: LilFarmer

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Japan’s Kowa says ivermectin showed ‘antiviral effect’ against Omicron in research
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How a Sarasota Nurse Practitioner Saved Covid Lives Without Vaccines: 1,092 covid patients with Ivermectin and the FLCCC protocols. Of those, 1,091 have recovered

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81 posted on 02/01/2022 6:50:05 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

So...
30/77 studies neither RCT nor DB
an additional 6 not DB
1/3 studies are RCT
Results of the 2/3 subject o observational bias
the other 1/3 are quite small

So the research is not exactly as rosy as you would like — and give jab about the anonymous poster, I am quite certain that this very outdated statement holds little water.


82 posted on 02/01/2022 6:32:29 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: bagster

Do you really believe what you write? It is curious.

Did you read the transcript — or do you just dismiss that this poor doctor was humiliated on cross examination because accepting it would be devastating to your position

Ivermectin is neither a miracle drug nor a cure, as I pointed out to Lil Farmer above, the ivermecta points out that less than 1/3 of the studies are actually RCT DB, and small in nature — the overall mass of studies suggest there may be mild early use of ivermectin, class 2B indication, but miracle cure? Hardly — lots of people on ivermectin who have died because the delayed appropriate care such as MABs.

It seems to be you really have nothing to say except your usual nonsense.


83 posted on 02/01/2022 6:35:15 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Still pushing your poison I see, how much do the drug companies pay you for this?

You really don’t care how many have had adverse effects and/or died from taking the vaccines. In a sane and accountable world these vaccines would have been pulled from the market or not even allowed with the little data they had.

How you call yourself a doctor is beyond contemplation, your duty is to try and heal the sick and use what can be available that is safe, not a gross experimental medication that cannot work.


84 posted on 02/01/2022 6:39:01 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1)
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To: gas_dr

Too funny. 😂

You regularly mention a few studies to forward a certain anti-ivermectin narrative, ignoring the wealth of information available looking when at the big picture.

Yet, you were perfectly willing to jump on the Paxlovid bandwagon with what, 2 whole studies with about 1,600 participants, by the drug company itself.

At least I am not afraid to look at ALL the research, good and bad. What are you so scared of?

The same people who have discounted/prohibited ivermectin are the same ones now denying monoclonals, do you even get that?

Whatever. It doesn’t matter to me what you think. I know so many people personally now who recovered easily from covid with ivermectin. I am working with healthcare workers on a daily basis right now and nothing you say fits with their experience either. It’s is like a whole underground medical railroad and you are missing the train.

So I’ll take the participation trophy, thanks pal 🏆


85 posted on 02/01/2022 6:55:59 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: gas_dr
No physician is required to carry boards

Repeat: No physician is required to carry boards

So you are actually the one being shady. Trying to imply that he is not trustworthy because he does not have the required credituals but.... they actually are not required.

Oh and....

I have been using ivermectin and doxycycline in addition to the standard treatments in the critically ill. I have seen a remarkable difference in the course and improvement. I believe this is a valid treatment. -gas_dr

The Efficacy and Safety of Ivermectin for Treatment and prophylaxis of COVID-19 Pandemic

Post number five.

86 posted on 02/01/2022 7:03:20 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's what I say...

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.

They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.

They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.

They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide.

They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.

They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror.

TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people's door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy... but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone."

-Unknown

87 posted on 02/01/2022 7:07:53 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

But when you lie about it on the witness stand it is a problem. Additionally, board certification is the gold standard of current knowledge, and expertise in the field.

Just because you can get paid without boards (although this is now being reduced) doesnt mean that it is a good thing to skip recertification — usually because you do not care or cannot pass the boards

And early, I thought it was valid, however multiple failures proved it incorrect especially in the setting of MABs,

So...you know..nice try

Knowledge evolves, apparently you do not.

Why dont you try something that actually challenges me.


88 posted on 02/01/2022 7:46:08 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: LilFarmer

I also look at all the research, analyze the numbers, actually understand the difference between studies and then can draw a reasonable conclusion. The evidence is weakly supportive — I have never said anything different, but a miracle cure? A conspiracy? hardly. Are you intellectual honest enough to look at the actual data, or just the data that fits your narrative. You seem to be among the more reasonable, so I challenge you to actually be truthful with yourself — I have fought and been able to give Sotrovimab — do you know what this is? Do you know its efficacy?

I have no problem with you believing what you want, but it is telling when you become aggressive when your beliefs are challenged.


89 posted on 02/01/2022 7:49:21 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I use what is safe and effective — monoclonals for the infected, minimal progression and nearly an instant cure. Vaccines clearly prevent progress to serious illness despite the desperate heavy breathing of the occaiaional on off.

How many times have you stood at bedside, treated the disease, learned its progression, understand what markers to look for.

Oh, right, you haven’t.

Good day.

Oh, and the old attack how much are the drug companies paying me? Zero.


90 posted on 02/01/2022 7:51:25 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

I have never claimed anything is a miracle cure, but it ranks among the best we have. More DB and RCT than Casirivimab/imdevimab, but that has not stopped you from recommending it.

I do analyze the studies, and you have no clue as to my background and what I “understand”.

No aggression here, I just find it funny. 😂

Enjoy your evening.


91 posted on 02/01/2022 8:08:35 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Fair enough. As I said I think you tend to be reasonable. I actually look forward to your commentary

Have a pleasant evening.


92 posted on 02/01/2022 8:25:59 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Jane Long
Much to the chagrin of the Faucist $hot $hills ping.

No doubt the vax shill grave dancing team are very angry that they didn't get to post this mans demise and claim he was anti-vaccine.

93 posted on 02/01/2022 8:29:14 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: gas_dr
Do you really believe what you write?

Don't sound so shocked, gassie. There are plenty of people smarter than you in the world. Check your god complex before you wreck yourself, homie.

the studies are actually RCT DB, and small in nature — the overall mass of studies suggest there may be mild early use of ivermectin, class 2B indication, but miracle cure?

Gassie, let's get this straight oncet and for all. You are a ADOCTOR (or at least you say so). You are NOT a researcher or any kind of scientist. You don't do 'studies'. You at best read OF studies doen by better and smarter men. Then, apparently, you piss all over them and the superior minds behind them. It's what you do.

There is no sign or evidence that you know any better than the real people you slander. The running of your mouth does not count.

lots of people on ivermectin who have died because the delayed appropriate care such as MABs.

Lots of people on ivermectin who have recovered and/or not even had to go to the doctor or hospital. But those people meqn nothing to you. How many people have died who were denied ANY treatment, including ivermectin? How many did YOUR people examine or consult with and sent home with NOTHING, only to tell them to go to the emergency room if it gets worse?

And you wonder why people end up in the hospital or ICU with 'complications from the flu'?.

Gassie, if you're so in love with MABS, why don't you marry it. You act like it's the ONLY covid treatment. I'm wondering if you own stock.

Finally, if we could just get to where you don't think you and your people are the only smart ones in the room, the world would be a better place.

This is what you get when god complexes run amok.

94 posted on 02/01/2022 9:22:22 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: LilFarmer; gas_dr
So I’ll take the participation trophy, thanks pal 🏆

Haha. You don't usually get smart, Farmer, and let your words speak for themselves. But when you do, it's pretty damn awesome. That was the ultimate gassie takedown. why didn't I think of that?


95 posted on 02/01/2022 9:28:01 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr
Knowledge evolves, apparently you do not.

Not with you, it don't. Go take your boards and stop denying each and every Ivermectin study just because you don't want them to be true.

Your body of knowledge is out-dated and that makes you dangerous to patients. You are a walking, ignorant liability. A walking lawsuit waiting for a place to happen.

Pay attention to those smarter than you and stop pissing on them with your uneducated urine.

ThankQ


96 posted on 02/01/2022 9:35:37 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr
I have no problem with you believing what you want, but it is telling when you become aggressive when your beliefs are challenged.

Haha. Look who's talking, gassie. This entire excercise is an illustration of the socialized 'medical community' becoming aggressive when it's beliefs are challenged.

You people are something else.


97 posted on 02/01/2022 9:39:10 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Touched a nerve it looks like. MABs are superior in every way and every way and every Study. You are the one pushing a medication that is inferior in every way. Why you probably believe ivermectin is even FDA approved. Another sleight of hands that the Q continuum loves to play. While irons FDA approved for parasitic infection it is neither approved nor EUA for covid. So any of it’s use is as experimental as you believe the vaccines are.

Come to think of it on all the Qaterwauling from your side I never once see you saying you are offering experimental therapies on humans without consent. But you are telling them it’s a miracle drug (your words). And you call me ignorant and a liability.

I guess you are also irony impaired. You position is logically flawed. And you think the only thing that gets you by is your inane prattle and hackneyed attacks. I only respond becuase I have been bored recently and I know it will draw a rejoinder from you that makes me laugh. Not because it is actually humorous but becsuse it is pathetic.


98 posted on 02/02/2022 2:40:44 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
Touched a nerve it looks like.

Oh yea, YOU touched a nerve. Is this the guy with the god complex that knows better than world renowned nobel prize winners? The doc from Shady Acres? No, Doctor Demento, it's you who are constantly losing your mind when a regular shmoe dares to think or say something that goes against your disco era understanding of medicine.

you probably believe ivermectin is even FDA approved. Another sleight of hands that the Q continuum loves to play. While irons FDA approved for parasitic infection it is neither approved nor EUA for covid. So any of it’s use is as experimental as you believe the vaccines are.

Haha. Soeaking of tricks. Would it shock you to know that I neither trust or believe the FDA? Nor do I care what they approve or don't approve. They are corrupt and politcally based and what they choose to approve is based on influence and money.

Go research how many ex Pharma upper managegement now work for the FDA (which is supposed to regulate Pharma). No, dear doctor. At some point you have to lose faith in a corrupt system. But you hang in there, little rabbit (you're so cute).

Come to think of it on all the Qaterwauling from your side I never once see you saying you are offering experimental therapies on humans without consent. But you are telling them it’s a miracle drug (your words). And you call me ignorant and a liability.

And here's the rub. The difference here is, people taking Ivermectin HAVE 'given consent'. Since you quacks have basically outlawed and choked it off from easy access, people have to go out of their own way to get and take it. That goes well beyond 'consent'. Please familiarize yourself with the terms here.

Do you prefer the term, 'wonder drug'?

Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations

(excerpt)

Over the past decade, the global scientific community have begun to recognize the unmatched value of an extraordinary drug, ivermectin, that originates from a single microbe unearthed from soil in Japan.

Work on ivermectin has seen its discoverer, Satoshi Ōmura, of Tokyo’s prestigious Kitasato Institute, receive the 2014 Gairdner Global Health Award and the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, which he shared with a collaborating partner in the discovery and development of the drug, William Campbell of Merck & Co. Incorporated.

Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary.

See, and you wonder why people question whether you're even a real doctor. You can't even keep up with the science and are a slave to the FDA, CDC, and the Fauci's of the world. Real doctors make their own decisions.

You position is logically flawed.

No, dear 1950's doc who still makes house calls in a buggy, your position is not only logically flawed, but trapped in the black and white days. Update your scientific knowledge base, please and ThankQ.

And you think the only thing that gets you by is your inane prattle and hackneyed attacks.

Your prattle is no less inane and hackneyed just because it's dressed in scrubs with a stethoscope around its neck.

But I will say this, it's amusing to see you god complex all over people. I can just see you stomping your little doctor foot in the hospital VIP lounge on your laptop as you peck away at us little people.

*submitted to relieve the boredom of saving lives*


99 posted on 02/02/2022 5:56:04 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr
Oops, I made an error in my last post (hard to believe, I know). Research how many ex-FDA burrocrats now work for Pharma, not the other way around.

There's a lot of money and job security in government corruption, you see. And that's something you need to mix in to your calculations before you so naively pop off.


100 posted on 02/02/2022 6:05:56 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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