Tucker also seems to broach the subject of our relationship with Russia, as in the reasons why we shouldn't be better friends with them. I certainly feel closer to Russia culturally and value wise than with the Chinese (CCP). I am for a complete cut in relations with China by the way. Russia is not the Soviet Union any longer and I am not convinced that Putin wants to reestablish Soviet satellite states. But even if he does, I don't see it as our problem. I guess I have turned into a complete isolationist in the past few years. The only use of military should be to completely and utterly destroy any attacker. Do it quickly. Do it ugly. Do it cheaply. Get it over with zero American lives lost. That keeps us safe at home and it is also the litmus test of Ukraine and Russia. How does Russia invading Ukraine make us unsafe at home? If it doesn't make us unsafe, then there is zero need to put American lives on the line.
The root of my thinking is simple. We should be silent on issues that do not affect us. That magnifies everything we say when issues do affect us. I don't go for this United Nations peace in the world globalist bullshit that always leads to war. NATO is just different extension of the same idea. It is time for Europe to take care of their own and pay for their own. If they did that, we could be better friends. Perhaps if Europe was serious about keeping order and nation states the same in Europe, then Russia would not be at the border of Ukraine. Obviously, Putin not only sees us as being weak, but also Europe. He is on the verge of attack because he wants to split NATO. Since I do not care about NATO, then I must ask again why should we care if he is trying to divide us? We should divide ourselves regardless of what Putin wants. That will make Europe stand on its own two feet for a change. And pay for it.
He’s not again any military action. He’s opposed to military action that isn’t in the interest of the US.
He’s all for military action to close our southern border.
The entire DC establishment is far more concerned with the territorial integrity of Ukraine than they are with our own.
Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s azz if Russia grabs a bit of Ukraine. NATO should’ve been disbanded right after the Cold War. Serves no purpose now other than to drain our wallets and entangle us in business other than our own.
“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world.”
GEORGE WASHINGTON, FAREWELL ADDRESS TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES | MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1796
I’m pretty damn sure the father of our country wouldn’t have approved of globetrotting neocon warmongering idiots.
Ukraine is to America primarily a source of corruption. We do not need to institutionalize that flow of corruption. Ukraine as a Russian satrapy would offer limited opportunities to such as the Bidens.
“Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City “Sailor wanna hump-hump” bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we’re all stocked up here.”
To be fair, Tucker would have opposed entry into the Revolutionary War. It’s just his schtick.
Nato is an outdated organization and Ukraine is not our problem. The problems in that country were made worse by Victoria Nuland.
We are currently beset with humungous problems—an out-of-control border, supply chain breakdowns, galloping inflation, rising fuel prices, increasing crime, and a pandemic that won’t go away. Starting a war with Russia, a country with thousands of nuclear weapons, over a corrupt regime on the other side of the world in which we have no national interest would be insane!
Don’t believe what this turkey is saying.
Listen to Tucker for yourselves.
We get drawn into a war with the Russians and it may very well be the last war ever.
1. Ratings (Tucker’s angle that you don’t particularly like sells better)(”Rumors of War” gets ratings points).
2. It’s the Biden Admin., anything can happen/don’t trust what they say.
Williams, do the US a favor…..
Go to Ft Bragg, Ft Drum, Ft Campbell, Ft Benning, Camp Legune, Camp Pendleton, Ft Carson, Ft Wainwright, Ft Lewis, Ft Carson, Ft Knox, and every other US military installation…..assemble all the 18 and 19 years olds, look them all in the eye, and tell them that should go to Ukraine to fight the Russians for no reason.
Tell them that they should be willing to de for no reason.
Then talk to some of their parents and tell them the same thing.
“Tucker and his guests keep touting Russia’s “strategic interests” which justify invading Ukraine. This is supposedly because Ukraine is about to join NATO, something which is no where near happening and which is a pretext Putin is raising to justify annexing Ukraine.”
I don’t follow Carlson, but for your consideration:
A. If Putin wanted to invade Ukraine, why hasn’t he already done so, instead of giving NATO/the US time to pour in weapons and advisors?
B. Biden has made it clear enough that the US is not going to do more than impose sanctions and donate weapons, which Russia will end up with (Afghanistan).
C. Europe wants and needs Russian energy, so a sanctions regime is not going to last. This will become a wedge issue that harms EU-US relations and weakens NATO.
D. Putin has at least three objectives:
1. Putin wants to force the US and NATO into allowing “Finlandization” of Ukraine, so that it is not a significant threat on Russia’s southern border. His talk about sending offensive weapons to Cuba and Venezuela is to rachet up pressure for diplomacy since his show of force on the Ukrainian border hasn’t born fruit.
2. Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and force it to be part of a Eurasian economic and security bloc under Russin hegemony, as a counterweight to NATO and the EU.
3. Putin is not a “self-holder” and his power depends on delivering the goods both to his nationalist popular base and the cabal of business oligarchs and the descendants of the KGB-mafia he came from. These elements have substantial operations that suck wealth out of Ukraine. An actual war, with unpopular casualties, destruction of the cash cow, likely expensive occupation requirements for years, economic isolation and massive losses, losing international good will, scaring NATO into greater readiness, etc., is not a good outcome. Diplomacy that gives Russia less control over Ukraine, but at enormously lower cost, is the objective.
A die-hard optimist might think that Biden is brilliantly calling Putin’s bluff by in effect saying, go ahead and invade, because he knows that is not Putin’s desired end game. Absent diplomatic solutions, eventually Putin will invade, to maintain Russia’s, and his own, credibility and power at home. Biden will demonstrate for any slow learners that the US is a feckless ally, leaving Putin in a position to co-opt other Eurasian states into his empire. The result for Ukraine will be catastrophic instead of merely bad.
“Tucker NEVER acknowledges the only thing going on right now is a threatened Russian invasion of Ukraine.”
That’s not really accurate. Kiev is threatening to try to conquer the Donbass and Crimea. We are arming and training them for it. Our warships routinely sail within two or three miles off the Crimean coast, claiming that we got permission from Kiev. We tried to launch color revolutions in Belarus and Kazakhstan in the last two or three months. We just spend several years trying to overthrow their ally in Syria with ISIS/FSA and demand they back out.
So congrats, we have finally convinced them we are hostile and aggressive. And when they complained, we rushed weapons to Ukraine to make the point that yes we are.
So soon, we will probably see missiles in Cuba again as they try to illustrate for us what they are saying.
Meanwhile China runs wild, the border is wide open, crime is rampant, shelves are empty, and our economy is in free fall. That is the crisis.
You go fight. Hell no I won’t go.
1..2..3..4...we don’t want your bleeping war!
Use of US forces should only be used if clearly in the best interests of the USA period….
The eastern hal of ukraine is Russian speaking.
The country should’ve divided their originally…
And NATO shouldn’t have tried to expand into ukraine.
For 2500 years of history, invasion of Russia has been a bad idea.
Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine. I've watched a few YouTubers from and in Ukraine and they aren't worried about A Russian invasion. It's all propaganda on our end.
We fomented a revolution in 2014. Soros was heavily involved, meeting with the incoming President. Then, we proceeded to use Ukraine to pester Russia. Russia wasn't going to allow Ukraine to cut off its access to the Black Sea so it annex Crimea with the full consent of its residents, which were overwhelmingly pro-Russian.
Of course, Biden is making an issue out of all of this to distract from his failures. I doubt he wants to send troops to Ukraine, But he wants the media to cover this bogus story.