Posted on 01/20/2022 6:07:24 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
1. A quantum vacuum — in which various laws of physics apply — isn’t “nothing”.
2. If the quantum vacuum, with its laws, HAD existed for all eternity, the universe, having been able to pop into existence, would have done so an infinity ago — and thus would have reached heat death (entropy) also an infinity ago.
It sounds like that’s what they are saying.
But they are too intellectual for me to make sense out of what they are purporting.
If human beings were just stupid idiots it would not be that bad—they would share that with all the rest of the animal kingdom.
But—human beings try to lie to cover up their stupidity—that is what makes humans truly dangerous to themselves and others.
But there still has to be a first. Right? Where did that first one come from?
And maybe it just always has been... Nothing was created because it has just always been there. The only thing new and created is us as a spore from something that has been there forever.
Something has to be eternal for there to be anything. That something is God.
Correct. Otherwise you are merely positing an infinite regression which is a logical absurdity.
# But “dark matter “ is still undefined…
I’ve long thought that ‘dark matter’ is handwaving to satisfy a need for an equation to balance.
Also don’t buy the idea of an ‘open’ universe. I can think of no worse ending to this universe than heat death.
Not that it matters one way or another. All of it is over my pay grade.
This is what I always have believed, too.
“So you see, something is eternal. Can’t think it away.”
I agree. Something has to be eternal, either matter or an intelligent being. The big bang and the resultant decay of the universe indicates intelligence. This universe had a beginning and left unchecked by that intelligence will have an ending.
There is no beginning or ending of time. It is logical that there could also be no beginning or end of matter.
Amen!
Who says there is no beginning or ending of time? The Big Bang says just the opposite.
You missed the part of our conversation where our universe may not be the only one. It may not be the first, there may be as many or more than there are galaxies. We may have been seeded from a preexisting one. Which would make time proceed the big bang, and the one that proceeded us, and the one hat proceeded that one. And this cycle has always been and will be perpetual with no beginning and no end.
Who says there is no beginning or ending of time? The Big Bang says just the opposite.
There is no evidence for multiverses. And the concept of a recycling universe is just an infinite regression which attempts to revive the discredited theory of an eternal steady state universe.
“So, in the beginning there was nothing....
Then it exploded?”
Not exactly. There was something, but it just wasn’t us.
How do you know there are not? Just because we can’t see them yet does not prove they do not exist. And that is one of the fallacies of man. The ignorance and refusal to think outside the box even one bit. Even hypothetically. We discover so slowly and hinder ourselves because we refuse to even consider extraordinary possibilities.
I think the pattern and cycle repeats it’s self. From the structure of the atom, to the solar system, to the galaxies, To clusters of Galaxies... Why would that common pattern stop at one just Universe? I believe there are trillions of Universes inside even larger super universes. Nature repeats patterns without fail.
I have to ask creationists why would they doubt and set a limit for the power of God? God isn’t powerful enough to have done as I theorize? He was only powerful to have created one Universe and not many before it? I don’t think enough credit is being given with that concept.
because there is no evidence of them and no reason to believe they exist. The same reason I don’t believe in Santa Claus.
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