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To: kabar
I was there in the late 1980's. I suspect it had changed quite a lot in fifteen or so years. Look at what's happened in some US cities in that time.

But living in a place is completely different than being a business visitor. The types of customs games and overt bribing demanded to do business in Indonesia were off putting. And the city itself seemed like an urban "Heart of Darkness". It wasn't the people. I'd never felt the same sense of "evil" in Malaysia, with similar people. That said, it might be down to a Dutch versus a British colonial foundation.

48 posted on 01/21/2022 7:48:33 AM PST by katana
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To: katana

When I was in Indonesia the bribing to get even the smallest things done was endless.

My trips there were not an enjoyable experience.

I never felt that way about Malaysia. There was bribing to get thongs done there but not as multilayered. To me it was nothing more then a Southeast Asian version of the latin American “maƱana”!


51 posted on 01/21/2022 8:01:02 AM PST by Reily
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