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To: daniel1212
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled The UK has recorded 5 times more Deaths in 12 months due to Covid-19 Vaccination than it has Deaths due to every other Vaccine combined in 21 years & Twitter doesn’t want you to find out…daniel1212 wrote:
"Your post is the calling-card of dishonesty displayed by those making excuses and encouraging the acceptance of the clot shot. As many times as it's been said, debated, published and announced - you have to know at this point that your data is wildly underestimated. You have no excuse. All the abuses, threats, firings of staff for trying to report to VAERS, all the doctors who say they don't know what VAERS is or that it takes too long (unpaid work) to report a single case (45 minutes), all the ways people have proven that VAERS underestimates. You know that your estimate has to be 100 or more times too low. My conscience wouldn't let me try to manipulate people into accepting a biowarfare agent but for some reason, yours has no objection to your actions."

Rather, it is the like of YOU who is irrationally playing into the enemies hands imagining you can refute the arguments for vaccine mandates by (on one hand) posting an article quoting official sources on negative vax events in order to make a case against vaccine mandates, while not analyzing and anticipating how that argument can be nullified in the light or percentages, which is actually what matters when you are trying to make your case!

Many liberals do the same such as in quoting that more crimes are committed by whites than blacks but ignoring that the percentage relative their population shows that more crimes per capita are committed by the later (culture being the problem).

Thus this attempt simply makes the dailyexpose.uk look ignorant or deceptive and its fans to be gullible. But then in response you argue something that the dailyexpose.uk did not in the article, which is to charge that the VAERS data is wildly underestimated, which I believe it is to a significant degree, yet that is not something we can substantially prove as yet, since anecdotal reports and individual is not going to do it, though there is the correlation argument of increased death rates under vaccination In contrast, in opposition to the long-term all ages and restrictions on freedom of movement, association, speech and even breathing and for mandated vaccination, I use the CDC data to show that its Case Fatality Rate (CFR) rates are inflated, and that the CFT rates are very low for the young and vastly lower for the majority of the population than the elderly, while it is preventable comorbidities that drive the death rates for the majority, and which need to be the focus.

In addition to which providing much research material (with 300 footnotes so far) from major and medical sources on the same and on immunity, and while provide more as the data becomes more substantiated.

When making an argument, we need to examine if and how it could be countered, and deal with objections with valid substantiation if indeed our argument is sound. Faced with recalcitrant opposition, the Lord Jesus Himself invoked Scripture, the authority of which was accepted by the opposition, and thereby put them to silence, and exposed them as erroneous.

However, there does come a point in which such repeatedly dismiss soundly reasoned and substantiated arguments, and thus they can be left to their chosen delusions.

Grace and peace thru Jesus the Lord.


You know that VAERS is 'wildly' under reported. You and your kind pretend that's a rumor and then you downplay risk. At a time when the CDC/FAUCI/NIH/FDA are downplaying risk - you're right along side them, helping them do it.

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine (deconstructingconventional.com)

Written by Christian Elliot, April 5, 2021

"According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) - read page 6 at the link above.

While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.

"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."

And those numbers don't include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell's Palsy.

If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions."

New Scientific Study finds at least 400,000 Americans may have died due to the Covid-19 Vaccines


17 posted on 01/18/2022 8:05:31 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
"You know that VAERS is 'wildly' under reported. You and your kind pretend that's a rumor and then you downplay risk. "

No, I said, "I believe it is to a significant degree" and neither was I attacking your argument at the outset, but that of the argument dailyexpose.uk made in the articvle you posted, bu thus you continue to read to what was not said, both by the article and me, and seem to attack anyone that does not sing perfectly in tune with you.

However, thanks for the links (esp. this one I dug down to) as regards the underreported argument relative to the danger of the vaccines (and at 69 I am not, nor have had to see a doctor in about 40 years, thank God). The real problem is the unprecedented poor health of Americans (73% overweight; 42% obese).

20 posted on 01/18/2022 9:06:02 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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