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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled 150k Covid-19 Deaths? – The ONS state in black and white that just 17,000 people have died of Covid-19 in the past 2 years, jonrick46 wrote:

Ivermectin has been proven safe from the ADA approval process that required clinical trial. However, it has not tested effective as a treatment for COVID-19. A review of the medical literature by the Cochrane Library analyzed 14 randomized controlled clinical trials for Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 infections.6 The Cochrane Library is an organization that examines published studies of medical research to collect data and determine the best evidence-based choices for medical treatments. The 14 studies had enrolled nearly 1,700 patients and compared Ivermectin use to either no treatment, a placebo, or the standard of care for a respiratory infection.

“Based on the current very low‐ to low‐certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of Ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID‐19,” the Cochrane review concluded. “The completed studies are small, and few are considered high quality.” As I told you before, the last clinical trial was found to have fraudulent data. The studies that are finished have yielded little evidence of effectiveness. Some were halted due to lack of benefit along the way. Others have been retracted. So, when are they going start another clinical trial?

The CDC, FDA, and AMA all advise against its use against COVID-19 because there is no evidence it works. Gregory Poland, MD, spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA), tells Verywell. “If Ivermectin were a miracle cure, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), IDSA, and specialty physician societies would be touting it and pushing it, like they are for vaccines and for monoclonal antibodies, but they’re not.” “You can search for substantial evidence of effectiveness for Ivermectin and you will come up empty handed,” Peter Lurie, MD, MPH, president of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, tells Verywell. “The fact is that there are a large number of trials of Ivermectin that have been done, but the great majority of them are lacking in terms of the fundamentals of clinical trial design.” Proven effectiveness is just as important for FDA authorization or approval. The same people who are demanding more testing for vaccines are saying that Ivermectin should be used, regardless of lack of studies.

Finally Poland says, ““Show me the [Ivermectin] studies. Show me the quality of the studies. Tell me what kind of study design was used—ask the same questions that people rightfully demand of any vaccine, antiviral drug, or monoclonal antibodies,” Poland says. “They have to live by the same scientific rules.”

Still you dig, and expect me to take an interest?

" However, it has not tested effective as a treatment for COVID-19. "

Remdesivir does nothing to treat Covid. It only kills people by shutting down their organs. They knew this and they pushed it through the FDA approval process. It never tested effective as a treatment for anything - they just lied and pushed it through approval.

Oh, yes, those people killing us with Midazolam and REmdesivir just can't bring themselves to 'let' us try something they don't think is good enough? They didn't have to trust their fraudulent False Flag drug trial - there were people begging to volunteer to take it rather than die.

Moderna and Pfizer's 'vaccine' trials did not collect any data indicating whether or not it would stop infectivity or spread but they mandated it worldwide. They didn't have data it would stop infection, nor prevent spread but it didn't matte - they have been forcing it on the public world wide as fast as possible, even if people collapse on dose 1, they are often not exempted for dose 2 and boosters, even though there never was any clinical trial data collected to show if it worked. But that doesn't matter to you. It's midnight somehwere and you're here carrying water for people who are killing us. You chose the side of genocide and seem to like it.

If people are dying without a moment of actual treatment, ethically they should be given a right to try. This is 'mere' biowarfare so there are stupid excuses to rule out Ivermectin and deny all treatments to sick people until they are hospitalized, and then kill them with Remdesivir and Midazolam.

You post Peter Lurie like he's authoritative - well then have him walk through the weakenesses in the show-trial of Remdesivir. After it killed people in Africa, Fauci and Co mashed together a fake trial to justify using it for Covid. Still toxic and the trial was too short and had plenty of problems. But you shills doen't care - it's just kill, kill, and kill with you people.

"The same people who are demanding more testing for vaccines are saying that Ivermectin should be used, regardless of lack of studies."

People are suffering and dying because of the vax, Pfizer wants to hide the raw data they never released for another 75 years. Trust has been violated and is now gone - vaccines take about 10 yaers to make and these vaccines are intentionally killing and disabling in this biowarfare. YEs, I imagine somebody would like 'more testing' of vaxxes because they can't beleive their own medical services are exterminating us.

So vaccines are killing and disabling and you're comparing that to efficacy testing? Ivermectin is incredibly safe and tolerated world wide - no prescription in Japan required and it's not a problem. So Yes, people want to take Ivermectin, especially when friends, family and neighbors take Ivermectin horse paste and quickly recover.

Jonrick46, you're such a waste.

You bother to post "Gregory Poland, MD, spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA), tells Verywell. “If Ivermectin were a miracle cure, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), IDSA, and specialty physician societies would be touting it and pushing it, like they are for vaccines and for monoclonal antibodies, but they’re not,” and you can't see the problem with it? NIH, IDSA have been touting vaccines that are killing us based on zero evidence they stop spread or infectivity according to the vaccine manufacturer. You see, I don't want to go through the motions of treating your false talking points as if they are serious - they're just obsolete propaganda.

The CDC/NIH/FDA have been making up new rules, laws, and violations of the Nuremberg Code without hesitation, and Poland wants to hold Ivermectin to higher standards? "People rightfully demand of any vaccine" that they not be lethal, that they be thoroughly tested, that they be granted informed consent, that the vaccine manufacturers hand over the raw data long ago, as is industry standard.

Pfizer reported a trial participant as having a stomach ache when in fact she was having siezures. She then became paraplegic and is working her way toward quadraplegia, and you bother to quote some evil traitor saying people have a right to know more about Ivermecin?

Don't waste my time with your propaganda. The narrative is failing and there's no hiding it. You and your lies and those you serve are being exposed, even if you hang around flinging propaganda and trying to pretend they didn't know. Didn't you see the reports that the Defense Department had proof that Ivermectin and HCQ worked, and all the key players knew it? There, in print - it worked and you are trying to pretend they were 'just following orders' and 'trying to make sure Ivermectin was good enough for use' when in fact you are laying cover for genocidal murderers. It's over, your kind just hasn't realized it yet.

I will, from the rabbit hole I have dug for myself, say that your statement, “NIH, IDSA have been touting vaccines that are killing us based on zero evidence they stop spread or infectivity according to the vaccine manufacturer.” is all hole diggings. The vaccine manufacturers have never said their vaccines are 100% effective. They have said they are 95% effective. However, the myths being spread by those like you surpass any supposed problems with the vaccines. Such myths that have took hold among the unvaccinated and solidified as their reasons not to get the shots have been the vaccine will make women sterile; the vaccines are too new; the shots have a microchip in them; the vaccine itself will give me COVID; I’m immune because I had COVID; breakthrough cases prove vaccines are useless; and the vaccines kill. But no matter how convincing and irrefutable the science and the data about the COVID-19 vaccines are, your misinformation persists.

FACT: As of August 9, the CDC said there had been 8,054 vaccinated people who were hospitalized or died who had also tested positive for coronavirus—out of more than 166 million fully vaccinated Americans. That’s roughly .005 percent. Additionally, CDC director Rochelle Walensky has said that 99.5 percent of all deaths from COVID-19 are in the unvaccinated.—Politifact

FACT: COVID vaccines have been shown to be very powerful in preventing more severe disease and the need for hospitalization. Breakthroughs occur at a much, much lower rate than in people who are unvaccinated. The breakthroughs have been occurring more frequently with the Delta variant because of the high level of infectiousness (or transmissibility) of the Delta variant and lower protection of current vaccines against this variant. But people having breakthroughs have much more mild infection, more like an upper respiratory infection. The vaccines prevent severe disease and complications and allow people to return to a more normal state.

FACT: “After people recover from infection with a virus, the immune system retains a memory of it,” the National Institutes of Health explains. While that’s good for the immune system, it also means that even after you recover from COVID, it’s still inside your body and can resurface. Studies have been unclear how long immunity lasts after having COVID—most experts believe anywhere from 90 days to six months, though it could be longer.—National Institutes of Health

FACT: The claim that coronavirus vaccines are killing people and will decimate the world’s population is FALSE, based on research. Public health officials say all three coronavirus vaccines approved for use in the U.S. are safe and effective at preventing infection. There is no evidence the vaccines cause deadly autoimmune disorders, and reports of blood clots following the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are extremely rare.

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