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To: week 71

First the hunger games quote is well played — I appreciate that level of discourse.

Secondly the fact is that mRNA platforms have been tested for over a decade. I am ok with people not getting vaccinated — it should be a choice I am comfortable with the data as presented and do not see disproportionate risk. There are a lot of stories told, but in my judgment the risks are outweighed by the benefits

As for treatments, the first monoclonals were used over 30 years ago. The have a safe and long track record. Which is why as a therapeutic I think monoclonals should be what a patient seeks. I am lucky — I can get them quite readily where I am — whatever you may believe about HCQ and ivermectin is fine — there is sufficient literature to support multiple views (with ivermectin having slightly stronger objective data than HCQ). However in all cases, -mabs are superior to either HCQ and Ivermectin which is why I will not use the former two therapies, because I know of a superior and available therapy.


14 posted on 01/15/2022 7:15:48 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Thank you for your response.
‘the fact is that mRNA platforms have been tested for over a decade’
- I would suggest most know that is not a reason to continue testing on folks and now children. And BTW it is closer to two decades.

Treatments? Hmmm - I am not going to pretend to have a panacea for a RNA respiratory virus. If one is for trying to treat the disease before hospitalization with new or even off label safe drugs then I am in agreement.

As for borrowing from the Hunger Games - Yeah it is getting old. But still makes me grin. Cheers


16 posted on 01/15/2022 7:49:01 PM PST by week 71
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To: gas_dr
I’m on day 9 of Covid. I never had trouble breathing so I’ve been treating it like I would a cold. I assumed it was omicron but couldn’t verify it because there are no home test kits available in my little town. Thank God my daughter picked up a couple of tests on Tuesday when she was in a neighboring town so I was finally able to test.

My main symptom at this point is an annoying semi productive cough felt in my upper chest. I’m 68 with a BMI of 25 but mild hypertension. Should someone in my situation seek monoclonals at this point or just continue to self treat? I feel like the worst is over and I don’t need medical attention, but my BP is higher than normal since I caught covid, which is concerning, as well as my coughing. What should I be on the lookout for at this point?

20 posted on 01/15/2022 8:09:07 PM PST by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: gas_dr

Since HCQ Is already one of the most widely prescribed drugs on the planet, has anyone looked at a database to find out if any Current HCQ users got COVID?

That would be so stupidly simple and definitive.

And if they haven’t, then why haven’t they?


29 posted on 01/15/2022 8:51:06 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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