U.S. Insurers Wasted Millions on Ivermectin for Covid-19, Study Finds

Gizmodo ^ | 1/14/22 | Ed Cara

[RouxStir]

“lack of solid evidence”

It’s all in the eye of the beholder...if the medical community is “pushed” (read: bribed) by big pharma to review the studies, then they will find what big pharma wants. Big pharma can’t profit off of generics...politicians don’t get “political donations,” free cruises, wined and dined, inside information for investing from companies who manufacture cheap drugs...or if a big pharma makes a generic, they don’t push it...they push their high dollar, high profit patent drugs. It’s the Phrama Mafia!

[silverleaf]

Someone is ripping off insurers with false claims
IVM is cheap and used as a home treatment
Anyone who doesnt have some at home hasn’t been keeping up with home treatment protocols published by Marik, Zelenko, and others who actually HAVE successfully used home treatments to save patients

[cuban leaf]

Actually, there is a lot of good evidence in my family. And that’s just for starters. What a ridiculous article.

[MrKatykelly]

My understanding is they are all mRNA related towards the same spike protein and the primary difference is the delivery mechanism, not the message.

[DugwayDuke]

alloysteel wrote: “If ivermectin does, in fact, prove to be a safe and highly effective treatment, then that destroys the reason for the emergency use authorization now designated for the various highly experimental mRNA injection protocols in common practice.”

The vaccines are not ‘experimental’ and are fully approved so this argument fails.

alloysteel wrote: “The mRNA injection is a useful tool, but it is very badly misused. It cures nothing, it does not prevent subsequent contracting of the disease, it is doubtful if it even shortens in any or reduces the severity of the illness, and it seems to fail after only a few months. Add to that the sometimes severe side effects of nerve damage and problems with inflammation of muscles throughout the body, especially the heart, and you have a strong case for removing this witch’s brew from the market altogether.”

That ‘witch’s brew’ has saved a few million lives. And, you seem to forget the side effects of COVID, you know deaths, illnesses, and hospitalizations.

alloysteel wrote: “Couple that with the fact that natural immunity from having once had the disease appears to be far more effective than the injections ever were, and that even the mild form of the omicron variant seems to confer this same immunity to those patients who have it, it appears that herd immunity has been achieved.”

Natural immunity also wanes and is no more effective than the vaccines. BTW, natural immunity does not protect against future infections, you can still get re-infected.

[bk1000]

Ivermectin cured covid in most of the third world

[bray]

We have cured a dozen people with it and 3 on their death bed. It is an amazing drug.

[antidemoncrat]

Grade “A” Bull Shit

[cableguymn]

The vaccines are not ‘experimental’ and are fully approved

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This is a flat out LIE.

[JPG]

Now do Remdesiver.

a/k/a the kidney killer.

[gleeaikin]

Ivermectin was very effectively used in India’s state of Uttar Pradesh (pop. 240 million). A mass public health effort to some 86,000 villages mas made. Contact tracing and then treatment was critical. Health teams tested people and then gave the infected the combined treatment of Ivermectin, zinc, several other vitamins and supplements, and a kit of masks, gloves and pain medicine. I don’t know how Ivermectin was used elsewhere, but this combined approach was very effective. I think that items used were in the amounts Dr. Zelenko had suggested, rather than ineffective or dangerous amounts that have been used in some popular so-called studies.

[Brian Griffin]

UTTAR PRADESH

"deserted view of city streets as UP observes another lockdown to curb the surge in Covid-19 cases"

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/uttar-pradesh-covid-19-curfew-extended-by-2-days-till-6-may-details-here-11620021096186.html

"Uttar Pradesh government has decided to extend the statewide curfew till May 31 to break the chain of Covid-19 transmission."

"As per a government order, the statewide curfew will remain in effect till 7 am on May 31. Vaccinations, industrial activity, essential services and movement related to medical emergencies will be exempted from the restrictions."

"UP government officials say aggressive testing in villages led to the drastic drop in new cases."

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/uttar-pradesh-up-corona-lockdown-curfew-latest-news-update-today-2021-1805795-2021-05-22

The Uttar Pradesh hard May 2021 lockdown correlates well timewise with Covid case count collapse.

[Brian Griffin]

"Examples include the EPIC trial (published in JAMA), IVERCORCOVID (BMJ Infectious Disease), the TOGETHER trial (currently a pre-print), and the I-TECH trial (currently a press release). These more reputable studies have been uniformly negative."

https://onepagericu.com/blog/debunking-ivermectin-a-complete-guide

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-06348-5

"The proportion of patients with extended ER observation or hospitalization was the 86/677 for the IVM group and 95/678 in the placebo group."

see page 21 for ivermectin: https://dcricollab.dcri.duke.edu/sites/NIHKR/KR/GR-Slides-08-06-21.pdf

"For the control group, 17.3 per cent or 43 out of 249 patients deteriorated to severe disease, while the Ivermectin group saw 21.2 per cent or 51 out of 241 patients progressing to severe disease."

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/ivermectin-not-miracle-drug-covid-071016969.html

If you are more than common cold sick seek out standard treatment as soon as possible. The earlier the monoclonal antibodies are given, the more effective they are. Don't dally, you might get added to the Covid death tally.

[sopo]

Every “off-label” use of medication is “anecdotal”— some “off label” uses are virtually the standard practice, but never went through clinical trial or actually failed clinical trial for one reason or another, maybe because of less-than -rigorously defined study group, which may be ivermectin’s problem. It would be hard to show benefit when most people get over it anyway, timing of test relative to “onset of symptoms,” can’t be clearly defined.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Are J & J, Novavax, AstraZenica or others also spike protein oriented, or do some use a different mechanism? I seem to recall reading something here (FR) telling about one that had a different attack point.

My understanding is - one common thing about all western vaccines, especially the American developed ones is that they use the Cornavirus’ spike protein as a means to induce the human body to produce antibodies against the virus.

mRNA, Adenovector or Protein substack-based technology, you name it, they all use the spike protein.

The Chinese vaccine, SinoVac, which is being used the many third world countries uses the traditional inactivated virus to induce and immune response.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: We have cured a dozen people with it and 3 on their death bed. It is an amazing drug.

I gather from this post of yours that you are either a doctor or registered nurse?

[Madam Theophilus]

Let us also see the data on how many people taking ivermectin were later hospitalized. The insurance companies would have those numbers as well.

[gleeaikin]

Please note that this information was from Dr. Kory, an important member of FLCCC. Also it used the I-MASK+ protocol which includes zinc, and various vitamins and supplements. Ivermectin alone is far less effective than if used with the right additions.

Pierre Kory, MD MPA
Between 100-200 United States Congress Members (plus many of their staffers & family members) with COVID.. were treated by a colleague over the past 15 months with ivermectin & the I-MASK+ protocol at http://flccc.net. None have gone to hospital.

[DugwayDuke]

cableguymn wrote: “This is a flat out LIE.”

The lie is that claim that the vaccines are experimental and have not been fully approved.

[sopo]

Do you know how this part of the Mint narrative you cited turned out?

“The government will extend all possible help. By promoting production of oxygen, we will be able to save humanity,” Adityanath said.

“At this point of time, the state, country and the world is in a grip of a second wave of Covid-19 pandemic, and there should not be any mistake of underestimating the danger of this infection,” he said.

“This time, the infection is 30-50 times more,” he claimed.

In this situation, the demand for oxygen has gone up, Adityanath said.

“The state government has taken effective steps to resolve the oxygen crisis and to a great extent, there has been success,” Adityanath said.