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Tesla Model 3 And Y HVAC Systems Under Investigation In Canada: The main concern right now is reduced visibility due to the EVs' inability to defog or defrost the windshield.
https://insideevs.com ^ | Jan 14, 2022 at 9:52am ET | By: Steven Loveday

Posted on 01/14/2022 7:31:00 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger
"...make an effort to park them indoors"

Great idea. January 3, 2022. Menlo Park, California. Tesla parked in garage and the charger caught fire. Nearly $1 million in damage to the home (hey, yeah, it's a modest middle class ranch house that probably sold for $35,000 when built...but it's Silicon Valley ranch house!).


21 posted on 01/14/2022 7:54:37 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: allendale

I see Teslas all over the place here every day.

Of course this is FLORIDA............................😉.


22 posted on 01/14/2022 7:56:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
The manufacturer should be required to equip every new Tesla with a portable 12 volt plug-in hair dryer / window defroster...


23 posted on 01/14/2022 7:56:56 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: Red Badger
And, who hasn't resorted to this most clever method...


24 posted on 01/14/2022 7:57:11 AM PST by moovova
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To: moovova

I remember the old Vacuum operated wipers on school busses and big trucks..................


25 posted on 01/14/2022 7:58:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dhs12345

Audi used to have an option to put Webastos in high end A8s, mostly for those going to Russia and Scandinavian countries. This in the late 90s.


26 posted on 01/14/2022 7:58:17 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe there could be a “cold weather” variant of the car that has a small gas powered heater system. Use chemical energy for heat and the battery for powering the motor. This would also keep you from freezing if the battery dies and leaves you stranded somewhere.


27 posted on 01/14/2022 7:58:20 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LMAO! Great FReeper practical solution!


28 posted on 01/14/2022 7:59:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I don’t believe it would cost a million to repair its the land you by that cost so dam much


29 posted on 01/14/2022 8:00:07 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Yardstick

See my #s 15 and 26.


30 posted on 01/14/2022 8:01:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dhs12345

...and there was NOTHING like the old VW bug (we had a ‘62) heater which passed air over the cylinder fins. There was always that faint aroma of dirt, oil and gasoline fed to the compartment.

For a crappy heater, nothing beat my 1976 Jeep CJ7 with a rag top and wire frame cloth doors with zero air sealing. A buddy and I drove it from California to Colorado for a ski trip once and it was so cold that our water bottle in the passenger compartment froze SOLID. We wore our parkas and ski pants the whole way. Oh, to be young and stupid again!


31 posted on 01/14/2022 8:01:54 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: Red Badger

I had an old Chevy half ton pickup with vacuum wipers. They still worked but were crotchety.

I think it’s pretty cool that Corvettes had vacuum powered pop-up headlights all the way into the 1970s (IIRC).


32 posted on 01/14/2022 8:04:29 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: gloryblaze
"the new goal is self-driving by GPS."

Even better than that, they could put a real time forward looking camera in the driver's position, and you could sit back in your living room and just pretend you're actually in the car. Then they wouldn't have to use any heating at all!

33 posted on 01/14/2022 8:08:54 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: Red Badger

So a toy car can’t keep you warm?

Interesting.

Someone didn’t do the research on what happens in cold weather with EV’s. And it wasn’t Tesla.

You buy a toy, don’t count on it. Sort of like expecting a Bugatti to be a daily driver.


34 posted on 01/14/2022 8:09:47 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: 9422WMR

That is about the only solution that would work.

I had an old truck that blew the heater fan. So rolling down the windows in the cold was my ONLY solution.

Hated that thing. Was glad to see it go.


35 posted on 01/14/2022 8:11:13 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: FreedomPoster

That’s interesting about the Audis with aux heaters as recently as the 1990s. To me it seems like a very acceptable fix for the EV heater problem. I’m sure the Tesla engineers could integrate it nicely into the design.


36 posted on 01/14/2022 8:12:24 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Lol. You were lucky if you smelled anything. Carbon Monoxide is odorless.

But you adapted. :)

37 posted on 01/14/2022 8:14:06 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Yardstick

And make no mistake about it, that was a *very* high end sedan. “Like a linebacker in a business suit” was one of my favorite summaries of that car. All-aluminum unibody, handled well, was rigid as could be, and fast for the time.


38 posted on 01/14/2022 8:18:41 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: al baby

Nope, you are out of date, Al.

The article actually said $750,000 DAMAGE excluding land.

Land sells for about $3 million per acre (an old nursery on three-quarters of an acre in Los Altos sold for $12.5 million in April 2021).

The house in Menlo Park would sell for close to $4 million (Zillow says $3.9 million).

So $750k damage for a total loss is correct.

The house is 2,200 sq ft. At $750,000, that is $340/sq foot for new construction. You cannot get a house built for that price around here. The house was probably not a total loss, so it probably can be rebuilt for $340/sq foot.

Construction costs for new homes here were $300 to $700/sq foot a few years back and are probably at least 50% higher than that today. That is CONSTRUCTION cost, excluding land — just the materials and labor. Don’t forget that “soft costs” (architect fees, site surveyor fee, structural engineer fees, landscape architect fees, environmental permit fees, building permit fees, Title 24 consultant fees, etc.) add 20% - 25% over the construction costs.


39 posted on 01/14/2022 8:20:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: Yardstick
Just stick a kerosene fired space heater on the back seat.


40 posted on 01/14/2022 8:22:44 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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