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American Heart Association Circulation : Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults
CIRCULATION: Journal of the American Heart Association ^ | December 6, 2021 | Dongngan T. Truong, Audrey Dionne, Juan Carlos Muniz, Kimberly E. McHugh, Michael A. Portman, et. al

Posted on 01/10/2022 10:14:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: AppyPappy

Wondering about that myself after having had covid. Something is not quite right a year later.


21 posted on 01/11/2022 5:40:18 AM PST by zek157
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To: BipolarBob

“Nah, it’s permanently related to it.”

My first thought too. It’s like they’re trying to soften us up for FINALLY telling us the truth.


22 posted on 01/11/2022 5:49:57 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: zek157

It normally happens to younger people.


23 posted on 01/11/2022 6:12:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

RE: Also Covid itself can cause heart issues

The question is, for the young, which poses a higher risk of heart problems? The vaccined or Covid?


24 posted on 01/11/2022 6:52:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Covid is always higher but not that high


25 posted on 01/11/2022 6:57:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

RE: Covid is always higher but not that high

Could you share with us the source for this information?


26 posted on 01/11/2022 7:15:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: zek157
Was he denied retirement benefits after onset of 1st problems?

I have no clue what your point is? He still had approximately 10 years to go in his lucrative career. This cuts a quarter out of it, and pilots make far, far more in their last ten years than they do in their first ten years... You do realize that an airline captain's retirement benefits are a fraction of what they make while they are working? Whatever disability insurance that he had also is not going to make up the difference. He has 5 kids, 3 of them still in college. The entire family is having to make drastic changes to their lifestyle.

Trying to figure out why he would get boosted.

Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it! These days you are no longer considered “vaccinated” if you don't get boosted. And his airline has mandated the vaccines. This was fought by the union but the union lost. He had two options get the booster or be fired. He wasn't sure that his newly discovered heart condition was actually from the vaccine. When he was originally diagnosed none of the doctors said that it was even though it had never been a problem previously. So he got the booster, the same choice that the vast majority of people who are trying to support a family make. Biden and company might as well have put a gun to his head.

27 posted on 01/11/2022 7:40:45 AM PST by fireman15
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To: AppyPappy
Other vaccines can cause this as well. Also Covid itself can cause heart issues.

The studies they do have are mostly financed by the companies who are now making billions on the vaccines. But even they have found that the problem from the vaccines has created much greater risk of heart problems than any of the current variants do. Some people die of heart disease without taking these failed vaccines... it is no justification for forcing people to take something with known risks that are far greater than what is currently being claimed.

28 posted on 01/11/2022 7:49:45 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

This info came out before the vaccines. The Flu can do the same.


29 posted on 01/11/2022 7:53:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

You do understand differences in probabilities? In the lotteries you are a lot more likely to win $5 than $100,000,000. And that is similar to the difference in probabilities between getting a swollen and inflamed heart from the failed “vaccines” as compared to getting the same condition from the flu. Capiche!


30 posted on 01/11/2022 8:13:28 AM PST by fireman15
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile our current vaccines are basically worthless as per the Pfizer CEO!

Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer ‘Limited, If Any Protection’
townhall.com ^ | 1/11/2022 0900 hrs et | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 1/11/2022, 10:03:58 AM by rktman

Speaking during remarks to a J.P. Morgan healthcare conference this week, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla openly stated current vaccines the company developed for Wuhan coronavirus offer “limited, if any” protection against contracting current variants of the disease. He then encouraged booster shots.

The statement from Bourla comes as the Biden administration continues to justify vaccine mandates for federal workers, contractors and private businesses. The Supreme Court heard arguments about President Biden’s mandates for private companies and medical workers last week. A ruling is expected soon on the constitutionality of the mandates.

A number of people who have pointed out the waning efficacy of Pfizer’s vaccines, which Bourla touted last year as being “100 percent” effective against contracting or transmitting the virus, have been banned by social media companies.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com …

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/11/pfizer-ceo-our-vaccines-offer-little-protection-n2601670


31 posted on 01/11/2022 11:57:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Nietzsche: “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything the State has. It was stolen!”)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full
“Importantly, we also demonstrated that across the entire vaccinated population in England, the risk of myocarditis following vaccination was small compared to the risk following a positive severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) test [1]. “


32 posted on 01/11/2022 1:24:33 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy
The Summary says thusly:

... the risk of hospital admission or death from myocarditis is greater following COVID-19 infection than following vaccination and remains modest following sequential doses of mRNA vaccine including a third booster dose of BNT162b in the overall population.

However, the risk of myocarditis following vaccination is consistently higher in younger males , particularly following a second dose of RNA mRNA-1273 vaccine.

This tells me that we have to careful and especially look at the effects of the vaccines on YOUNGER males.

That study seems to complement the results of the study in this thread.
33 posted on 01/11/2022 2:16:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“However, the risk of myocarditis following vaccination is consistently higher in younger males , particularly following a second dose of RNA mRNA-1273 vaccine.”

What it doesn’t say is

However, the risk of myocarditis is higher following vaccination than the risk of myocarditis from a Covid infection
As a matter of fact, it says myocarditis is more likely from Covid than the vaccine.


34 posted on 01/11/2022 2:55:25 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

RE: it says myocarditis is more likely from Covid than the vaccine.

Yes, for the general population. But it is of concern for younger male folks. That’s why mandating vaccines for this group has to be taken with caution.


35 posted on 01/11/2022 2:59:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Myocarditis is more of a problem for younger people anyway and that was happening before the vaccines.


36 posted on 01/11/2022 3:58:38 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

This study tells us that the Covid vaccines are TEMPORALLY related to the Covid-19 vaccines.


37 posted on 01/11/2022 4:13:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: AppyPappy

This study tells us that suspected myocarditis are TEMPORALLY related to the Covid-19 vaccines.

The observations in this study has also been observed in studies in Hong Kong. See here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34849657/

Conclusions: There is a significant increase in the risk of acute myocarditis/pericarditis following Comirnaty vaccination among Chinese male adolescents, especially after the second dose.


38 posted on 01/11/2022 4:30:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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