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To: David Chase

No necessarily true. Ivermectin is more effective given early, but studies show there is 40% improvement in late stages (73 studies, range 25-53%) https://ivmmeta.com/. Compare that to Remdesivir which only shows a 20% improvement on average, but is being used extensively https://c19rmd.com/

There are success stories I’m the news as well:

Dying COVID-19 Patient Recovers After Court Orders Hospital to Administer Ivermectin
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4017846/posts

COVID Patient in Coma Gets Ivermectin After Court Order
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210506/covid-patient-in-coma-gets-ivermectin-after-court-order - Her daughter has since reported that her mom is now recovering at home - https://twitter.com/desifype/status/1411114705092030465

After judge orders hospital to use experimental Covid-19 treatment, woman recovers
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/after-judge-orders-hospital-to-use-experimental-covid-19-treatment-woman-recovers/article_a9eb315c-5694-11eb-aac5-53b541448755.html

Ivermectin Wins in Court Again: For Human Rights (story details 3 patients who came off a ventilator after starting ivermectin)
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-wins-in-court-again-for-human-rights/article_98d26958-a13a-11eb-a698-37c06f632875.html

Court orders Rochester General to give experimental COVID treatment to patient (improvement within 12 hours)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/court-orders-rochester-general-to-give-experimental-covid-treatment-to-patient/ar-BB1d4Ax4

Houston Hospital Chief of Medical Staff Successfully Used Ivermectin to Treat COVID Patients
https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/08/31/houston-hospital-chief-of-medical-staff-successfully-used-ivermectin-to-treat-covid-patients


36 posted on 01/09/2022 9:12:25 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

As I know you’re aware of, there are varying degrees of Covid severity.

One patient could have their Kidneys more involved than their lungs.
The cases you list, we don’t know what their exact conditions were.
But I’m not against Ivermectin, I’m pro using and obtaining the best most power treatment asap.

Monoclonal antibodies seem like the best option in my opinion.

When there’s infection, we all know antibiotics, and newer synthetic antibiotics are available.

The cases you linked, one thing you can count on when dealing with people’s medical issues, there will be exceptions to the rule.
I don’t know if those are such cases.

I hope people do prepare for any Covid experience.
Then live your life knowing you’ve made preparations.

Thanks for the comment.


41 posted on 01/09/2022 9:23:27 AM PST by David Chase
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To: LilFarmer

Good post


60 posted on 01/09/2022 10:01:55 AM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: LilFarmer

Re: 36 - A researcher, Scott Alexander, posted on 11/17/21 his review of available studies as of that date available on ivmetta.com at:

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted

His conclusions:

“Ivermectin doesn’t reduce mortality in COVID a significant amount (let’s say d > 0.3) in the absence of comorbid parasites: 85-90% confidence”

“Parasitic worms are a significant confounder in some ivermectin studies, such that they made them get a positive result even when honest and methodologically sound: 50% confidence”

“Fraud and data processing errors are of similar magnitude to p-hacking and methodological problems in explaining bad studies (95% confidence interval for fraud: between >1% and 5% as important as methodological problems; 95% confidence interval for data processing errors: between 5% and 100% as important)”

Good reading and he is clear that he is not anti-Ivermectin - everyone makes their own decision. Props to him for going through all the available studies at the time of his post.


230 posted on 01/12/2022 5:39:20 AM PST by Fury
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