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G.M. passed by Toyota in U.S. auto sales...90 year run over.
https://www.google.com/url?sahttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja& ^ | 1/4/22 | Basalt

Posted on 01/04/2022 10:43:41 AM PST by basalt

Toyota passed G.M. in world sales in 2009...now this. I remember when japanese cars were ridiculed and called "rice burners"....unions ruined the American car companies.

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To: 1Old Pro

Good to know. My wife has a 2015 328i that has yet to need a new battery.


81 posted on 01/04/2022 12:40:00 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: V_TWIN

They sell the gadget for cheap, like you say just attach the battery and plug it in. Otherwise the computer needs to reprogram. BTW, the battery is in the trunk :)


82 posted on 01/04/2022 12:42:31 PM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Yeah I’ll have to pick up a new one...the old one went with the Pontiac.

The battery being in the trunk is probly why it’s survived so long....the engine location tends to kill ‘em in 2-3 years down here because of the summer heat.


83 posted on 01/04/2022 12:47:59 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: fuzzylogic

I loved the one where they let the tides come in and wash it out to sea. They had to send divers out to attach a cable to it. They drained the salt water out and it started back up.


84 posted on 01/04/2022 1:08:11 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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bump


85 posted on 01/04/2022 1:09:35 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: basalt

Congress needs to retract all of the overt mandates it placed on cars sold in America demanding safety and pollution improvements. They amounted to nothing more than sops to American car companies and their unions. Foreign manufacturers proved that they could meet the mandates faster and cheaper than American car companies. The only lasting effect is to raise the prices of all new cars.


86 posted on 01/04/2022 1:18:13 PM PST by nagant
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To: basalt

The problem with Toyota is they don’t have any really serious trucks. Sure, the Tundra is sizeable, but it’s not that big. Toyota needs to add something to their lineup equivalent to the F250 or 2500 trucks. Something that’s a stock full-ton or more.


87 posted on 01/04/2022 1:24:49 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: woodbutcher1963

...then put it on top of a high-rise apartment building being imploded - it still worked ;p


88 posted on 01/04/2022 1:25:48 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Svartalfiar

that is kinda surprising they have’nt moved harder on full size trucks.....


89 posted on 01/04/2022 1:37:47 PM PST by basalt (exas)
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To: Da Coyote

You’d get a new Vette? High Level GM/Chevy Exec. who always got the latest model drove his C8 for a couple months, sold it, got another C7. He said the C8 was a rattling, loose piece of junk.

Good friend of my brother’s in Naples, FL.

I’m a Porsche guy but would love either a C7 or C8. World class cars, maybe not in quality like a Porsche, but in technology and performance......

Also a life-long GM guy who left them when they became Government Motors......

But recent review by top car reviewers actually compared a base Porsche Cayman 718 with the C8, I myself was shocked that they picked the Cayman. I thought the comparison unfair.


90 posted on 01/04/2022 1:47:58 PM PST by Arlis
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To: basalt

I traded in a 2012 Nissan frontier for a 2016 f150. Did that in January. Two weeks after owning it the driver door would not close due to ice in the mechanism. Dealer told me it would be two weeks before they could get the seals to fix it so I had to drive around with Bungie cords in the door. Had the aluminum bed which made the back so light I could not navigate country roads. Final straw was the Ecoboost that they said got 23 mpg...I got 14 on the highway. Had the truck 4 months and traded it in for a 2016 frontier. Won’t every buy another Ford or gm product.


91 posted on 01/04/2022 2:00:10 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: basalt

Had an associate who worked for one of the American car makers. They bought competitors cars and tore them down to benchmark quality from brand to brand. Toyota was by far the best in quality. When Toyota contracted with BMW to manufacture the new Supra, BMW needed to really up it’s game to meet Toyota quality standards. Toyota just makes very high quality products. That said, GM has reinvented itself and has really upped it’s game. Their powertrains are among the best in the industry and their current product and manufacturing engineering is excellent. Styling is better than it used to be. I would not hesitate to buy an GM product .


92 posted on 01/04/2022 2:07:18 PM PST by rdcbn1
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To: qaz123

You won’t see Japanese cars in south Korea by and large.


93 posted on 01/04/2022 2:13:12 PM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: subterfuge

I’ve spent quite a bit of time in Afghanistan and Iraq. Traveled through Jordan, Dubai, Qatar.

Toyota’s everywhere.

As for the South Korean’s, understandable as they have their own cars, Kia and Hyundai. Both just as reliable


94 posted on 01/04/2022 2:55:51 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Justa

“Many Toyota sub compacts develop a leaking head gasket issue at around 200k miles“
Yes, I have seen that. I have made it a point to change coolant on a regular basis, usually I will run it two years max. I use antifreeze and distilled water in everything I own. The antifreeze corrosion inhibitors break down. I have never had cooling system issues with any of our vehicles, done this for years. I have seen well cared for Toyota engines go 400k miles. Uncared for ones will go over 100k miles pretty easily unless they chuck a timing belt. If you overheat them a couple of times, you are done.


95 posted on 01/04/2022 4:07:57 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: basalt

Awesome thread. I believe Toyota was already the largest automotive company in the world. Now they are also the largest in north America as well.


96 posted on 01/04/2022 4:09:40 PM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: V_TWIN
What your seeing is the difference between union shops and non union ones.

G.M. is a pension program that also makes cars.

Toyota is a car company.

97 posted on 01/04/2022 4:10:44 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Clay Moore

“Toyota used to put the oil filter right up on top of the engine. Then people bought cheap junk Fram filters that didn’t have the drain-back valve so the engine started dry every time. It didn’t take long to start hanging rods out the side of the block.”
I gave up on Fram oil filters many years ago. I have used Wix or Hastings oil filters exclusively for decades.


98 posted on 01/04/2022 4:13:08 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: fuzzylogic; woodbutcher1963

Yeah, I saw that same show.
Didn’t they drop it from a helicopter at 10,000 feet?
Set it on fire, drowned it, set it atop a building to be imploded...What DIDN’T they do to that little truck?
And no replacement parts just reconnecting and fueling.

https://youtu.be/kFnVZXQD5_k


99 posted on 01/04/2022 4:36:18 PM PST by oldvirginian (So if a cow doesn’t produce milk, is it a milk dud or an udder failure?)
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To: qaz123

Gotcha. The South Koreans are still anti Japanese from the world war.


100 posted on 01/04/2022 6:44:54 PM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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