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To: DiogenesLamp; HandyDandy; nicollo

Douglass’ personal biographical story is compelling, but what’s eminently actionable is that here is a man born into slavery and hating his country.

He reads the constitution. He reads how it was built. He reads its history from original sources. He realizes he obtained bad information at best, and at worst someone lied to him. The reality is that the Founding Fathers were great - tremendous even, for black Americans, and Douglass is ready to state these things.

He, as a former slave, becomes one of the best defenders of the so-called slaving Constitution and specifically is a defender of the so-called racist Founding Fathers.

This is a huge challenge for the 1619 Project as well as CRT. I want someone to tell me i’m wrong on this basis of 1619/CTR, _especially_ if quoting actual passages from the speech. (Both 1619 and CRT rely on Douglass as a pillar of their claims)


41 posted on 01/05/2022 7:15:07 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
He reads the constitution. He reads how it was built. He reads its history from original sources. He realizes he obtained bad information at best, and at worst someone lied to him. The reality is that the Founding Fathers were great - tremendous even, for black Americans, and Douglass is ready to state these things. He, as a former slave, becomes one of the best defenders of the so-called slaving Constitution and specifically is a defender of the so-called racist Founding Fathers.

If your main point is that Frederick Douglas saw deeper than the foolish liberals of today, I absolutely agree.

Despite the system being stacked against his race, he saw the merit in how it was created and how it had the ability to change into something better.

43 posted on 01/05/2022 8:11:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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