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Posted on 01/02/2022 3:22:40 PM PST by fedupjohn

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To: roving

I am so sorry you do not understand that there is no room for interpretation on trying to feed someone who is intubated would be immediately and directly life threatening. Scholars are quite mixed on you claims.

I politely request that you do not respond to me out of the blue as you are violating the rules of free republic by being inflammatory and trying to engage in a flame war. Please stop.

Happy new year


61 posted on 01/02/2022 5:35:34 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: fedupjohn
Remdesivir and slapping him on a ventilator they are assisted-suiciding him
"That is what they did. I just found that out."

Doctors are no longer practicing medicine. I'm so sorry.
62 posted on 01/02/2022 5:39:26 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: mikelets456
Needs to be within the first 10 days of symptoms. This treatment is meant to keep you out of the hospital. He waited too long.
63 posted on 01/02/2022 5:40:05 PM PST by bella1 (DeSantis 2024)
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To: Buttons12

> See if he’s a good candidate for monoclonal antibody treatment. They’re probably not against that, and it can do wonders.

My understanding is that monoclonal antibodies are typically used early in the course of the disease. I have the impression, and please someone correct me if I’m wrong, that MAB are not all that effective once the disease is far progressed.


64 posted on 01/02/2022 5:43:08 PM PST by Qilin
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To: Hodar

He’s on a ventilator! Not only is he unable to eat, he’s likely heavily sedated to keep him from frantically trying to pull the tubes out.


65 posted on 01/02/2022 5:44:29 PM PST by bella1 (DeSantis 2024)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

1. Sneaking in medications- Horse paste, NAC, Vit C drips, Melatonin
2. Trying to give food to someone on a ventilator
3. Trying to convince someone to check themselves out of an ICU
4. Suggesting he be moved to hospice care
5. Saying that ventilators kill people on purpose
6. Saying that he should not be given Remdesivir


66 posted on 01/02/2022 5:47:16 PM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Guenevere
My 88 year old mother was treated with remdesivir in September. She was back working out at the gym in weeks. She's fine...and this is a woman with low-grade lymphoma as well.
67 posted on 01/02/2022 5:50:07 PM PST by bella1 (DeSantis 2024)
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To: gas_dr
I'm no longer treating this as a difference of opinion. You're either with the assisted suicide protocols or you're not.

here is why
Nitric oxide interactions with iron are the most important biological reactions in which NO participates. Reversible binding to ferrous haem iron is responsible for the observed activation of guanylate cyclase and inhibition of cytochrome oxidase. Unlike carbon monoxide or oxygen, NO can also bind reversibly to ferric iron. The latter reaction is responsible for the inhibition of catalase by NO. NO reacts with the oxygen adduct of ferrous haem proteins (e.g. oxyhaemoglobin) to generate nitrate and ferric haem; this reaction is responsible for the majority of NO metabolism in the vasculature. NO can also interact with iron–sulphur enzymes (e.g. aconitase, NADH dehydrogenase). The interactions of NO with iron species (protein and non-protein bound). The possible significance of iron reactions with reactive NO metabolites, in particular peroxynitrite and nitroxyl anion shouldn't be over looked.

This isn't difficult to understand.
Fe2+ -NO+O2 ---> Fe3+ -ONOO- ---> F3+ + NO-3 -ONOO is Peroxynitrite Reaction is speed up with pressure of O2Nitric oxide and iron proteins
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005272899000213?via%3Dihub

Remdesivir with dexamethasone Collapse the kidneys with so IV fluids can't be removed
68 posted on 01/02/2022 5:55:11 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: bella1

Unfortunately to add to already long list of crimes and medical negligence, it has been my observation as a nurse in speaking with over 2000 people sick with Covid, that most of their personal physicians, and any ER physicians that saw them (and sent them home to get worse) did NOT tell them about or try to get them antibody treatment. It’s disgraceful


69 posted on 01/02/2022 5:57:05 PM PST by dkGba
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To: MD Expat in PA
I agree with you that sneaking in medications while the guy is being fed actual poisons from the doctors is a very bad idea.

I specifically said remove him from the fake doctors. Then get him on IV drips and with proper care
70 posted on 01/02/2022 5:59:12 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Well, I am sorry that you have come to numerous egregiously wrong statements, including your last statement which bizarrely makes no sense.

The reduction to the absurd argument fails in standard physiological systems with extensive buffering and feedback loops that occur in living organisms that do not occur in vitro as you describe.

I am sorry, but your cut and paste demonstrates high level of expertise — but little understanding of biological systems.

Oh I do not use remdesivir and your steroid comments are just a load of crap.


71 posted on 01/02/2022 6:00:16 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: bella1

What else besides remdesivir did they give her? respirator? antibiotics? was she on an IV of any kind?


72 posted on 01/02/2022 6:05:52 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: fedupjohn

Your friend is not going to make it, I’m afraid.


73 posted on 01/02/2022 6:06:42 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: dkGba

I must admit that I’m a little stunned that this is not common knowledge. Our local hospital is all but shouting it from the rooftop to their credit. Once you are in the hospital MAB are not an option, neither is ivermectin. The problem as I see it unfortunately is willful ignorance because they just don’t believe they will ever get covid which goes hand in hand with not getting tested early.


74 posted on 01/02/2022 6:08:55 PM PST by bella1 (DeSantis 2024)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Feels better after the first dose. He was ready to crawl into bed. Perked up and ordered a pizza”

What day is he on?

I had covid days 1-7 or 8 were terrible. Days 9-10 I felt like new. Day 11-14 it came back with a terrible resolve. This is very common with covid there are a few rally days midstream. Days 12 on up is when the lungs get it and people end up dying.


75 posted on 01/02/2022 6:09:05 PM PST by setter
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To: metmom

Hey metmom, I thought you said covid was just a normal flu virus??


76 posted on 01/02/2022 6:10:44 PM PST by setter
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To: setter

What kind of medical approach did you use?


77 posted on 01/02/2022 6:11:27 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: gas_dr
Let me make this simple.
iron and NOX2 with Oxygen creates a Hydroxl Radical. Correct?

78 posted on 01/02/2022 6:11:58 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
IV antibiotics. She had a slight touch of bacterial pneumonia, not covid pneumonia, never needed oxygen. She was/is vaxxed, she had fairly extensive cancer surgery 2 months prior to her breakthrough covid and still was not 100% recovered. That's why they admitted her. She was in 4 days. She got the last bed, the hospital covid unit was full. She did better than others.
79 posted on 01/02/2022 6:17:02 PM PST by bella1 (DeSantis 2024)
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To: proust

What kind of medical approach did you use?

I am double vaxxed. I got it bad but not low oxygen in the lungs bad. My lungs were never affected.I was extremely fatigued and had no energy.

I am overweight and have hbp. I truly believe if I was not vaxxed I would be on a ventilator right now. Some here will attack me but I truly believe it. I lost 3 friends due to covid while I had it. One was a father and son age 59 and 31 and in way better health than me -they died 2 days apart.

Another classmate was sent to the hospital this morning per his wife on FB. His lung oxygen dropped. Not vaccinated.

My wife is double vaxxed and boosted and never got covid from me.

I am on day 19 or 20 and feel great.


80 posted on 01/02/2022 6:21:52 PM PST by setter
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