“Like any republican conservative, I have no issues with vaccines in general and for adults in particular.” That is clever argumentation, excepting that others of the same political leanings — as I have — disagree with Mr. bueplum. “
That would be Mrs. Blueplum to you, thank you, tho. Stating a platform plank that supercedes Reagan, isn’t an ‘argumentation’. You may disagree with that plank, but it’s still there on the floor. You can pretend it isn’t there, but it still demands respect.
So many strawmen, so little time:
” bueplum does “push” the state agenda with such zeal “
define ‘state agenda,’ coherently if you can...but do tell, oh wise one of shiny fifty cent words, what agenda isn’t already being actively and enthusiastically offered on a giant silver platter to Dems and Socialists by continuing to parrot those discouraging - Republicans specifically - from protecting themselves from a disease that can maim and kill or maim others? What’s the inspired logic, the grand plan, behind actively promoting hesitancy and spread of infection with scary bedtime stories and fabrications, when doing so only prolongs the pandemic, cancels football, and pressures hospitals into crisis triage and denial of care, and more unnecessary deaths to join the 1 in 6 infected to date and the 1 in every 400 Americans already dead?
Fact. 90%+ of those maimed or dying are unvaccinated.
Fact: Dems are 90% vaccinated.
Fact: Seniors are 85%-90% vaccinated.
Fact: Republicans are 65% vaccinated.
Question: Which party voters are most likely the majority of those dying from covid?
Bonus question: which ‘deep state’ do those voter deaths most benefit?
““Facts on the ground”
yet that somehow doesn’t apply for Jr or other pied pipers? Blind acceptance and blind defense rules the day in denier land.
““from” and “with” and “presumed” classifications for causes of death, a taxonomy only a Fauci could love.”
Au Contraire’ mon frere. It’s the pandemic deniers that absolutely insisted, no, demanded, their use, and demanded the MEDIA differentiate. It happened right here. And the deniers still remain attached at the hip to the words. “Covid is deadly; protect yourself” contradicts the pandemic denier credo and is way too scary a thought for Libras of the world who still can’t make up their minds what to do 2 years on. But dead is dead and the dead weren’t dead before catching Covid. And who did they catch covid from? It doesn’t spontaneously generate.
Re: vaccines: Mumps is 88% effective vaccine, so is pertussis, but not for 12%. Are they not vaccines under this new paranoid freakout about a definition update to reflect science of 2021 or should we go back to the 1798 and 1881 definition for ‘innoculations’ that also weren’t guaranteed to prevent symptoms? I don’t care what we call them as long as they ‘flatten the curve’ on hospitalizations and deaths. And that, they are doing very well.
"...define ‘state agenda,’ coherently if you can." Given that the CDC and FDA are in part "state" institutions, the "state agenda" is and has been to push the mRNA inoculations. Fauci, Collins, Walensky and more are all state actors in the political sense. You know that but choose to quibble about the definition of words.
You do snide quite well, if I am a "wise one of shiny fifty cent words." Which fifty-cent words specifically annoy?
Your recitation of facts is based on the "state" numbers, as is mine below. I cite the sources. Please cite yours. As yours stand, you've defined herd immunity for the virus in the US even while delineating between party registrations, though perhaps you did not intend this in your argumentation.
Offering a view from past centuries does not further discussion or debate about the potential -- and seeming massed -- ADE examples being seen. There has not been a vaccine under FDA jurisdiction before these last couple of years which would tolerate the number of injuries and death from such products. Until this go-around and -- yes -- via a "state agenda" and under "state control" as defined above.
As to the pandemic and all the "from" and "with" and "presumed" dead that you cite without distinction:
26 December 2021
Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/
( 5,398,446 "global deaths" from COVID / 7,916,000,020 population ) x 100 = 0.0682 %
Worldometer
( 5,415,197 "global deaths" from COVID / 7,916,000,020 population ) x 100 = 0.0684 %
Quite the pandemic we are having, as long as one accepts the official -- and, yes, "state agenda" -- numbers, in spite of the glaring anomalies which suggest the taxonomy, collection, analysis and reporting are not as trustworthy as the trust you place in them, as you detail "1 in 6 infected to date and the 1 in every 400 Americans already dead...."
About one percent of a population die each year; that you so easily miss that death from other causes have folded into the SARS CoV2 category suggests also that you fully accept the "state" numbers, as well as definitions. If so, then the pandemic worldwide is as the sourced numbers indicate, in a range from 0.0682 % to 0.0684 %.
I question the data itself, as I question the initial Corman-Drosten RT-PCR test from January 2020 -- before the pandemic declaration by the WHO in March -- which has led to folding so many deaths into the folder marked "Covid-19." I question the CDC and FDA, because I question government, rather that place my trust in it.
Your use of terms such as "denier" suggest that I avoid vaccinations. I've been vaccinated plenty from the Vietnam forward. I question these particular mRNA vaccines of only the most recent manufacture.
People, it has been alleged have died and been severely harmed by these mRNA products. Some wash this away in the manner of "breaking eggs to make the omelet." Some say there are none because something else is occurring. I say let's investigate.
The current mRNA products are about four to five months old, based on the first FDA EUA, 23 August 2021.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine
Your passion for these phase three, clinical trial, months' old products shielded from legal liability by the state's "agenda" is yours. Your passion matches the "state agenda" as above defined.
I remain skeptical.