Proof that the CDC, FDA, and NIH are corrupt and/or incompetent

substack.com ^ | 12/22/2021 | Steve Kirsch

[SoCal Pubbie]

None of this has anything to do with the fact that the states of the CSA seceded to preserve the institution of slavery, which was and still is my one and only focus. Your arguments are silly and disconnected from the facts. The idea that corruption exists and did in 1860 somehow proves that the civil war was a diabolical scheme by New York bankers (why not go ahead and say it was the Jews?) is like pointing to corruption in the Roman Empire and saying “See, that proves it!”

[DiogenesLamp]

None of this has anything to do with the fact that the states of the CSA seceded to preserve the institution of slavery,

According to the corrupt power system that controlled propaganda during and after the war, but who went to war to protect the very powerful financial interests in the Northeast.

These people are lying. How do we know? Because they voted to give the South permanent slavery, but they would not allow it to separate financially from their control.

The idea that corruption exists and did in 1860 somehow proves that the civil war was a diabolical scheme by New York bankers (why not go ahead and say it was the Jews?)

I very much doubt Jews were controlling the banks in New York in 1860, but thank you for pointing out an oft repeated claim of anti-semites.

No, it was plain old corrupt goyim who were running the banks, the railroads, the shipping industry, the warehouse industry, the insurance industry, the publishing industry, the manufacturing industry, the steel and coal industries, and so forth in the Northeast during that time period.

All of these powerful men would have lost massive amounts of their money and their businesses from Southern states cutting them out of controlling the trade with Europe.

These men controlled the industries in all the great lake states, New York and the Northeast. They had clout and they used that clout to push Lincoln into starting a war to protect their financial interests, and he did it because he was part of that corrupt cabal that has been running Washington DC for a very long time up to that point, and that same cabal is still running Washington DC today.

All the government agencies conspired to stop Trump because *HE* was interfering in their corrupt business dealings with the government and foreign countries.

Same sh*t, different century. Washington DC is *STILL* corrupt and ran by dark money.

[jeffersondem]

“So, constitutionally speaking, the 1860 election wasn’t even close.”

I haven’t challenged the constitutionality of the election of Lincoln, the regional candidate. I have no idea how many dead people voted for Lincoln so I’m not making any claims in that regard.

It was the violent, unconscionable acts of Lincoln after he took control that still rankles.

[BroJoeK]

"It was the violent, unconscionable acts of Lincoln after he took control that still rankles."

Lincoln took no "violent... acts" until after Confederates provoked, started, declared & began waging war against the United States, and at first largely in Union states & territories.

As for "unconscionable", some (not all) of my ancestors were conscientious objectors and would not fight, regardless of how "conscionable", or not, others considered any war.
So "unconscionable" is a matter of personal interpretation, however, most Americans consider an attack on our military a "conscionable" casus belli.

Now, US history provides us with five famous examples of such casus belli: 1) Fort Sumter, 2) USS Maine, 3) Pearl Harbor, 4) Gulf of Tonkin, and 5) 9/11/01.
In each case "something" happened, but historians have argued ever since just exactly what that was.

However, I'd like to point out a different incident -- December 12, 1937, Japanese sinking the USS Panay & three other American ships in the Yangtze River, near Nanjing, China, killing three Americans, wounding 43.
Americans were outraged, but the Japanese were conciliatory:

"The Japanese claimed that they did not see the U.S. flags painted on the deck of the gunboat.
Tokyo officially apologized and paid a cash indemnity.
The settlement mollified some of the U.S. anger, and newspapers called the matter closed.[1]"

So not every attack necessarily results in war -- it all depends on what happens next.
Confederates' next major acts after forcing Union surrender at Fort Sumter were to begin preparations for war, and then to formally declare war on the United States, May 6, 1861.
There was no thought of conciliation, "and the war came", "conscionable" or not.

Here is a 21 minute US newsreel from the time showing the Japanese attack on the USS Panay.
Historians today say the Japanese attack was probably deliberate, but their government's actions afterwards prevented the incident from becoming a war.

[DiogenesLamp]

And Merry Christmas to you too BroJoeK and Doodle, SoCal Pubbie, Bull Snipe, Handy Dandy, Rockrr, Pelham, Pea Ridge, Rust Bucket; Jefferson Dem; War Daddy; Ohioan and so forth.

[HandyDandy]

Merry Christmas to you too!

[jeffersondem]

Merry Christmas!

[Bull Snipe]

Merry Christmas and may the new year be better than the last one.

[DiogenesLamp]

Merry Christmas and may the new year be better than the last one.

Amen. I was going to say it could hardly be worse, but then I realized I have a lot of faith in Joe's ability to f*** things up, to paraphrase Barack Obama.

We may be at war with Russia, with China and with Iran. It may very well get worse.

[Bull Snipe]

“We may be at war with Russia, with China and with Iran. It may very well get worse”

I would hope you are wrong. But that may not the way to bet.

[DiogenesLamp]

I hope i’m wrong too.