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1 posted on 12/18/2021 7:06:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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According to the article:

Anyone who left MA that Winthrop did not personally want to see removed from his colony was seen as a traitor.

Roger Williams was one of those Winthrop wanted gone. He was one of the founders of Rhode Island and a serious threat to Winthrop. He openly called for toleration of religious beliefs and was embraced by enough Massachusetts colonists to be seen as a threat to Winthrop’s power.


2 posted on 12/18/2021 7:08:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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“Until 1641, no colony turned state had legalized slavery.”

Am I the only one seeing a problem with the facts right there?


3 posted on 12/18/2021 7:09:46 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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A poorly written rambling article which relies on an obscure provision which seemed to be limiting slavery to war captives. The article tries to disprove the 1619 project by claiming Massachusetts legalized slavery before Virginia.

I’m not aware that Massachusetts has any significant history of legalized slavery and the article fails to give any historical overview.

This is a stupid article.

The real point about Massachusetts and slavery is that the state outlawed slavery. America never had slavery in the North.


4 posted on 12/18/2021 7:18:57 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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There is a stubborn myth in American history that claims Virginia was the first colony to legalize slavery. If not Virginia, then some other southern colony. It was as if the northern colonies were completely untouched by the horrors of owning a person. The first colony to legalize slavery was not Virginia or some other southern colony, but Massachusetts in 1641. Virginia would not legalize slavery for just over two decades after Massachusetts.

The only "stubborn myth" here would appear to be the claim that this is a stubborn myth. Every source you can find on this says it is Massachusetts and 1641 - as far as earliest codification.

The first adjudication in court did occur in Virginia - strangely enough, the first officially declared legal slave owner was himself black.

6 posted on 12/18/2021 7:22:51 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Interesting link here...

The Importation and Sale of Enslaved People

No mention of MA off-loading troublesome Pequots, though.

8 posted on 12/18/2021 7:25:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Virginia did introduce slavery first, and the courts there upheld it. Massachusetts did write slavery into its laws, but the courts there later abolished it. One might often wish it to be otherwise, but courts do make law. In any event, slavery was abolished a long time ago and no living American is responsible for it, so the writer can FOAD painfully.


9 posted on 12/18/2021 7:29:49 AM PST by x
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Re-elected 12 consecutive times.

So,the steal happened long before biden?


11 posted on 12/18/2021 7:33:30 AM PST by Leep ("What's the big deal" -joe biden)
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more correctly....no BRITISH COLONY.


12 posted on 12/18/2021 7:34:05 AM PST by ealgeone
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They were British at the time. America didn’t become independent until the surrender of King George III.


15 posted on 12/18/2021 7:41:03 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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Yale and Brown Universities were named after their great, initial benefactors, who both made their fortunes in the slave trade.

Not a single peep from the race hustlers.


16 posted on 12/18/2021 7:50:39 AM PST by BrexitBen
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Every English colony was required to have a representative government and laws in line with English Common Law. <\i>

This makes sense to me but a footnote would have been appreciated. Was the requirement an act of Parliament or was it in the colonial charters?

24 posted on 12/18/2021 9:13:07 AM PST by edwinland
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Nothin new duuuhhhh....It would appear that some Native American tribes kept prisoners of war and other different tribal members as slaves for thousands of years before the Europeans even set foot in Massachusetts? During the St. Anne`s War & French and Indian War, Native American tribes would kidnap women and children from Massachusetts towns and keep them as slaves. Even some tribes bought and sold African-Americans as slaves after 1620? French kept records now in St. Sulpice, Canada, of buying off/rescuing white slaves from Massachusetts, etc. from Iroquois and Algonkoin captivity.


25 posted on 12/18/2021 9:17:09 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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Interesting.


59 posted on 12/20/2021 10:51:48 AM PST by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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Interesting.


60 posted on 12/20/2021 10:51:48 AM PST by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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