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To: SunkenCiv

Read HE DEFEAT OF JOHN HAWKINS by Rayner Unwin.
He mentions that some of Hawkins’ men walked from Mexico to Nova Scotia in a year, and claimed to have seen “elephants” inland.
Also, some Mayan carvings appears to show elephants.
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/7d/ba/8a/7dba8ae6799c936e3313b8671acdfd96.jpg

https://www.americanheritage.com/longest-walk-david-ingrams-amazing-journey

https://owlcation.com/humanities/David-Ingrams-Epic-Walk


15 posted on 12/13/2021 9:51:38 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Still OUT of Facebook Jail! But I'm pushing it!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

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16 posted on 12/13/2021 9:53:20 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Still OUT of Facebook Jail! But I'm pushing it!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Thanks. Jefferson wanted the two expeditions (Lewis and Clark, and the other one) to be on the lookout for mammoths.

The Ica stones are a hoax.


18 posted on 12/13/2021 10:56:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; PIF; All

I read the complete article about Ingram’s amazing journey. I have been researching to write a book located in the Ohio and Mississippi areas around 1800. Apparently eastern forest buffalo were well known by people at that time. The Indians used controlled fire to clean the floor of old growth forests. This greatly facilitated travel in those times.They also also burned open areas in the Shenandoah Valley and in the area of Mammoth Cave and the Green River to maintain a buffalo common which all Indians used according to specisl peace agreements honored by all for annual hunting in those
areas.

In the 1500s the great European disease plagues had not yet severely reduced the Indian populations of North America which undoubtedly reduced the maintenance of trails, fire cleaned forests, and buffalo commons. Thus,it is very hard today to imagine how travel in the 1500s might have been a lot easier especially since Europeans had not yet made enemies of interior Indian tribes in the US territory. Remember, Jamestown and Plymouth started in the early 1600s.


24 posted on 12/14/2021 1:24:45 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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