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VAERS Data Indicates the Covid Vaccines Have Killed At Least 140,000 Americans
American Thinker ^ | 9 Dec, 2021 | Vasko Kohlmayer

Posted on 12/09/2021 4:07:21 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: Drago
The point is proved.

“Bad data,” as you write, is bad data. Therefore the “sources” are relying on “bad data,” and so you return to the theme of CFR/IFR which itself is rooted in the same “bad data,” “bad data” collection and “bad data” analysis.

Condemn the number gatherers. Then try to prove your point with the numbers from the same number gatherers.

The overall picture from the “bad data” suggests that this “pandemic” affects the world — ignoring the media hyperventilation — minimally. Or maximally, when one joins the chorus of the media.

Global Deaths through 23 months — ( 5,105,270 / 7,906,949,863 ) x 100 = 0.0645 %.

Go calculate the CFR/IFR and report your result please.

Or if you have different data which is not “bad,” please cite your source for the good data.

81 posted on 12/10/2021 11:43:05 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Personally not a big fan of “CFR” and “IFR” numbers since they depend heavily on the amount of testing being done and “cases” being reported by Dr’s and hospitals (3rd world #’s not that accurate for those)...lots of people get minor symptoms and stay home & are not recorded as a “case”. CFR is better/more accurate than IFR but neither are that close to “actual”. Probably the best country for a COVID-19 CFR number is Denmark...it is the most tested country (16.8 million tests per million population...USA is at 2.3 million tests per million pop.)...Denmark’s CFR is 0.0055195 (.55%)(2,996 deaths/542,794 cases).

For a general “relatively how bad is it” overview/outlook I made my own “Top USA Influenza Pandemics” table:


Top USA Flu Pandemics:

1. 1918 USA Influenza Pandemic:
USA Population: 103,208,000
675,000 Spanish flu fatalities (est.) = 0.00654 fatalities per capita

2. 2020 USA COVID-19 Pandemic as of 12-10-2021:
USA Population: 332,770,000
817,326 COVID-19 fatalities = 0.00246 fatalities per capita

3. 1957-1958 USA Influenza Pandemic:
USA Population: 171,984,130
116,000 flu fatalities (est.) = 0.000675 fatalities per capita

4. 1968-1969 USA Influenza Pandemic:
USA Population: 200,706,052
100,000 flu fatalities (est.) = 0.000498 fatalities per capita

Sources:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/basics/past-pandemics.html

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


So the 1918 Spanish flu was about 2.66 times “worse” fatality-wise than the current COVID-19/ChinaFlu outbreak/pandemic, and the current COVID-19/ChinaFlu pandemic is about 3.64 times worse than the next worst (1957-’58) flu pandemic.


82 posted on 12/10/2021 7:01:59 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

So your data is based on the CDC, as expected.

Therefore you believe your government, lock, stock and barrel.


83 posted on 12/11/2021 2:23:33 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Past influenza pandemic information is available from many international (non-CDC) sources:

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Spanish-Flu-pandemic-of-1918/

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30868857.html

https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/influenza-pandemic

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/1/newsid_3086000/3086843.stm

Nope, don’t believe my government “lock, stock and barrel”...they have various agendas and “influencers”/lobbyists. I analyze on a case-by-case basis. For example Fauci has worn out his welcome (his 15 minutes expired long ago) along with Powell and The Fed. I also base my outlook on 1st hand experience...20+ friends fully vaxxed (about 1/2 of those now “boosted” including my 83 y/o mother....no side-effects reported except for the usual sore arm, etc.. Also 2 acquaintances died from COVID-19 before the vaxx’s came out. Personally not vaxxed due to my wife & I being low-exposure/retired/rural (and I monitor my county’s “case count”...been very low for months)...may consider the Novavax product in the future. (Hopefully tweaked for Delta and the “B.1.1.529”/”Nu””Pres. Xi”/”Omicron” variant. Although the usual “virus MO” is mutations may yield a more infectious version but they are usually less serious and cause less hospitalization...like the “Pres. Xi” (WHO can’t be trusted fully either..it defers to CCP Xi)/”Nu”/”Omicron” variant is looking like so far.


84 posted on 12/11/2021 3:49:30 AM PST by Drago
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— “I also base my outlook on 1st hand experience...20+ friends fully vaxxed (about 1/2 of those now “boosted” including my 83 y/o mother....no side-effects reported except for the usual sore arm, etc.. “

Some other 1st hand experiences to round out a view....

https://nomoresilence.world/

https://1000covidstories.com/

That you trust a speedily “tweaked” vaccine suggests that our disagreement is about speed in the development of vaccines and other drugs. That seems the divide.

Given the history of drug development (especially vaccines) I am much more skeptical than you. That seems clear. Best wishes.

85 posted on 12/11/2021 7:20:09 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Drago

Oooooh, ok, the China numbers are fake, but the VAERS investigations are real. GTFO.

Nevermind the young athletes dropping dead like flies with heart issues.


86 posted on 12/11/2021 7:25:36 AM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thanks and welcome to FR!


87 posted on 12/11/2021 1:55:20 PM PST by Drago
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