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1 posted on 12/06/2021 7:46:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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The rest of the story, however, is a tale of stupidity. This woman spent at least 15 years in academia, acquiring $360,000 in debt (the additional $70,000 is accrued interest), in the hopes that she could get a job in a university.

Really? I don’t care how much she researched it. There are only 1,452 U.S. News-ranked schools in America, with the rest being community colleges, beauty colleges, etc. The latter may offer valuable degrees, but they’re not offering big, Fauci-style bucks to their faculty.


2 posted on 12/06/2021 7:47:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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A reminder that credentials do not always equal intelligence

But, in some organizations, they equal money.

3 posted on 12/06/2021 7:48:29 AM PST by eastexsteve
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Most liberal arts PhD programs at good schools, they pay you to come. It you don’t get tuition remission and a stipend, don’t go!


4 posted on 12/06/2021 7:49:24 AM PST by proxy_user
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So, $430,000 in debt= no new car, no house to own, no luxuries BUT she gets to work for a university for her entire life so she can pay them back for the ‘education’ she got from them.

Seems fair. Idiots gonna idiot.


5 posted on 12/06/2021 7:50:10 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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Short answer is “no.”

Long answer is “not on your life.”


6 posted on 12/06/2021 7:50:28 AM PST by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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A neighbor’s grandson is in his 2nd year of college majoring in English. He’s thinking about teaching at the college level and plans to go for a PhD in English. He’s early enough in the academic cycle to smarten up. Hopefully he will.


7 posted on 12/06/2021 7:50:50 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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Some people are addicted to collecting expensive diplomas. They can’t think rationally about their problem, even though it’s a life long slow motion train wreck. Not only is it vanity, as they think their degrees and titles make them better than others, but they imprecisely assume they will end up more well off because of it.


8 posted on 12/06/2021 7:50:53 AM PST by z3n (“If the populace knew with what idiocy they were ruled, they would revolt.” -Charlemagne)
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Is it worth going into debt for $360,000 to get a Ph.D.?

Universities certainly would prefer it if you do - someone's got to pay for their diversity officers and other useless bureaucrats, and that someone is the idiots who go into debt for worthless degrees.
10 posted on 12/06/2021 7:52:35 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Unless you have the prospects of a job waiting for you at the end, a PhD is never worth getting for the value of the work that it provides. PhD’s, more often then not, are just vanity degrees.


12 posted on 12/06/2021 7:55:46 AM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is liko. e me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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Leftards hijacked 'higher education' and extorted large sums of geld for the price of admission to the enlightened credentials club. Now payup and enjoy the exalted status and superiority over the barefoot hayseeds and toothless rednecks clinging to their Bibles and guns. It pays cost$ to be privileged.
14 posted on 12/06/2021 7:57:33 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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When she started out, it was probably a good idea. Who knew that the full-time uno jobs would end up going to management bureaucrats instead of professors? Who knew colleges would end up relying on part-timers to teach the paying students?

But even with that, 360k is a lpt to rack up, even in the best of circumstances!


15 posted on 12/06/2021 7:57:43 AM PST by Chicory
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A very expensive ego trip.


19 posted on 12/06/2021 8:03:02 AM PST by Starboard
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Meanwhile, there are some long haul truck drivers making 100K/yr.


20 posted on 12/06/2021 8:03:11 AM PST by Signalman (HA)
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Due to the nature of my position, I am often encouraged to pursue my Ph.D. I got my master’s with a combination of program grants, employer tuition benefits and weekend overnight babysitting/house sitting while working full time.

The ROI on a Ph.D. stopped being worth it when I was 35 even if I had the above financial help.


22 posted on 12/06/2021 8:05:18 AM PST by PrincessB
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Here’s a tip. If you’re paying tuition to get a PhD, the PhD ain’t worth jack.


24 posted on 12/06/2021 8:08:38 AM PST by glorgau
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Humanities and social sciences advanced degrees have reached the point of pure financial transaction.

The school and its bloated administration NEED the money. You borrow the money, pay them, and they give you a useless piece of paper.


25 posted on 12/06/2021 8:10:31 AM PST by PGR88
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“Stupid is supposed to hurt.” Lurker’s Granddad.

L


27 posted on 12/06/2021 8:11:59 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Depends on what one wants to do. It’s a must if you want to go into academia

A masters is usually enough for most anything else


30 posted on 12/06/2021 8:22:09 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Before receiving a nickel, students should be required to pass a rigorous test about the economics of student loans.


32 posted on 12/06/2021 8:26:25 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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She apparently lived the life of an academic and her debt would include her living expenses. Her choice. Do not expect the US taxpayers to pick up the tab. The commie dems are attempting to include student loan govt payoffs in their ongoing trillions of dollars of theft from the US treasury. I have no pity for this knowingly incurred debt by a grown person. Truly smart persons do not scam the system, and truly responsible Academia does not scam students or the US taxpayer.
33 posted on 12/06/2021 8:26:50 AM PST by mountainfolk
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