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To: Steve_Seattle
Your informal chart points out what is missed in the usual vaccinated vs unvaccinated debate, i.e., despite vaccination rates in excess of 60% in most states (and even higher in most European countries) cases are going way up, sometimes to levels higher than when NO ONE was vaccinated.

And not just cases. COVID deaths as well. Vermont would appear to be a prime example of this, although I've yet to see anybody write about, or provide an explanation, of certain data that is readily available.

In (pre-vax) August 2020, there were 0 deaths involving COVID in Vermont. In (pre-vax) September 2020, there were 0 deaths involving COVID in Vermont. In (pre-vax) October 2020, there were 0 deaths involving COVID in Vermont. In (pre-vax) November 2020, there were 16 deaths involving COVID in Vermont.

And the corresponding figures for 2021, when 90%+ of Vermont's residents have been vaxxed? The state incurred 17 COVID deaths in August 2021, 44 COVID deaths in September 2021, 41 COVID deaths in October 2021, and (with all of the data yet to be reported), 25 COVID deaths in November 2021.

Deaths, not just cases, not just hospitalizations. Deaths. Seems to me that, as a matter of logic, even the purported "waning efficacy" of the vaccines fails to provide an coherent explanation for why more people are reported as dying of COVID in Vermont now, compared to the same time last year, when no one had as yet been vaccinated.

This is a trend that started across the country back in August 2021. In September 2021, every state but one saw an increase in COVID deaths, compared to pre-vax September 2020. The trend has continued (although perhaps to a somewhat lesser degree) into October 2021. The data for November 2021 are not yet complete so as to enable any conclusions to be drawn, from what I've been able to dope out.

One can postulate various coherent explanations for this phenomenon. I wish somebody more knowledgeable that I am on this subject would do so.

32 posted on 12/02/2021 1:22:59 PM PST by DSH
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To: DSH

If you look at the numbers that you mentioned, you would almost think that the unvaccinated are LESS safe than they were before anyone was vaccinated. I can’t remember the details, but some people who know way more about it than I do have actually explained why this would be the case.


33 posted on 12/02/2021 1:42:49 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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