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To: Tommy Revolts

Also, the Teal shirt guy is ordered to leave the property. Legally, he has been trespassed. Refusing to leave at that point is criminal trespass. From the moment he was told to leave, the Teal shirt guy no longer has any legal justification for being on that property. Yet he chooses to not only remain, but to:

1) move in a threatening manner towards the gun owner
2) physically come in contact with the gun owner
3) attempt to take (larceny) the fire arm from the gun owner
4) when the gun owner discharges (warning shot?) he advances on the gun owner

Teal shirt is the aggressor here. If I am on the jury, and this video is presented into evidence, I would not convict.

You can not go to someone else’s house, get up into someone’s face, refuse to leave when told to do so, assault and batter them, and then be portrayed as the innocent person.


12 posted on 11/30/2021 12:19:33 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: taxcontrol

The guy who got shot had a shared custody arrangement with the ex wife. He had an absolute right to come pick up his kid and was trying to do just that——trespassing would be hard to claim?


15 posted on 11/30/2021 12:28:09 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: taxcontrol
From the moment he was told to leave, the Teal shirt guy no longer has any legal justification for being on that property.

Maybe, maybe not. My understanding is that he had a right to be there pursuant to a order of visitation.

16 posted on 11/30/2021 12:28:35 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: taxcontrol

I’m with you on this one. Teal shirt should have left when he was told to.


28 posted on 11/30/2021 1:25:48 PM PST by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: taxcontrol
You can not go to someone else’s house, get up into someone’s face, refuse to leave when told to do so, assault and batter them, and then be portrayed as the innocent person.

And that's the name of that tune
29 posted on 11/30/2021 1:26:08 PM PST by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: taxcontrol
Disagree. You are characterizing everything to fit the scenario you are trying to paint.

A man not leaving when told to leave is not a sufficient reason to intimidate him with a gun and then shoot him, especially when he was there to get his rightful legal custody of his son.

The smaller guy should have called the police and had them remove him. No one needed to die over this bunch of stupidity. The son didn't need his father killed.

41 posted on 11/30/2021 1:47:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: taxcontrol
its not clear cut....the bigger guy was ranting and ranting and thrust himself chest to chest into the smaller guy, and he was threatening....

lesson to be learned....just because you have a gun, doesn't mean you should be grabbing and using it....one moment you think you're just showing strength and the next moment you've shot someone.

67 posted on 11/30/2021 10:04:56 PM PST by cherry
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