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To: devane617

If you’re a licensed concealed and carry individual shopping your local Best Buy when the flash mob shows up, what to do? It is definitely not your responsibility to try to stop the theft. Do you draw your weapon to deter violence against you? Would drawing a weapon potentially escalate the violence unnecessarily? Do you just keep the weapon at the ready, undrawn, until the attacks on people begin? Legally, does a brandishing charge apply if merely standing, gun in hand, watching these thugs rampaging? With the new American tiered justice system, we are in unchartered waters.


14 posted on 11/27/2021 5:39:33 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge )
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To: hardspunned

Your post is the reason why carrying a weapon creates a responsibility most people are not ready to handle. First rule is to avoid conflict if possible. If in a store, find a hole to hide or a back exit. Continue to survey the situation and look for an escape route. If none is available, stay in your hole. If someone comes up to you and threatens you, try to defuse the situation. Tell them to steal all they want and you support their cause. In short, lie.

Pulling the weapon and using it will change your life but more importantly, might end up causing the mob to turn on you.

There are no easy answers but one must prepare for all possibilities if they are to carry a weapon with them.


20 posted on 11/27/2021 5:45:34 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: hardspunned

The stores and the rich are on their own.

They can hire former police officers let go because of vaccine mandates.


32 posted on 11/27/2021 6:03:52 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: hardspunned
If you’re a licensed concealed and carry individual shopping your local Best Buy when the flash mob shows up, what to do? It is definitely not your responsibility to try to stop the theft. Do you draw your weapon to deter violence against you?

Why would I defend Best Buy or Cvs etc? They won’t defend themselves and clearly have the resources to. Keep the gun hidden until you need to shoot to defend yourself or your family.

34 posted on 11/27/2021 6:05:20 AM PST by kjam22
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To: hardspunned
Finally a thinking man.

My conclusion is that if a store or company does not think enough of their employees and merchandise to take strong measures to protect them...why would I do it for free...putting my life and financial security at risk for free?

My conclusion: Be very quiet and careful. Try to be invisible in the crowd but be a good witness.

Even at home under the laws in most states, property is not considered more important than the life of the lowest slime human.

So if a person comes into your home unarmed and carries out everything you own, you will be prosecuted for shooting him.

If he is a brute on meth obviously capable of killing you with his bare hands, you have grounds under the disparity of force rule.

But regardless of what you personally think is right, there is the law and it does have traps even in your home.

I have no doubt smash and grab will come to our homes and a “safe full of guns” will be as attractive as one full of money, gold or diamonds. So everyone had better study very carefully the local laws and even more important, how your local prosecutor interprets the law for he will be the one deciding what happens to you after the shoot.

Never forget there are many Nyfongs still acting as DA's.

49 posted on 11/27/2021 6:31:00 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: hardspunned

You certainly don’t shoot them. Not your property…and they don’t tend to engage people. A better tactic would be a knife to their tires.


76 posted on 11/27/2021 10:38:42 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: hardspunned
 
 
You simply leave. Pumping your fist up in the air while yelling "Black Lives Matter! Down with the greedy corporations!" as you make your exit may be helpful.
 
 

82 posted on 11/27/2021 4:25:18 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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