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To: MtnClimber
As a scientist, to me the thing that grated loudest in the current hubbub was the use of the phrase "listen to the Science." There is no such thing as "the Science." I have been listening all my life and I have never heard Science utter a single word, a single phrase, much less a law supported by data. I have heard scientists say lots and lots of things, most of which most other scientists will conclude is wrong. Scientists are a noisy and contentious lot. Moreover no good scientist demands uniformity of opinion. He wants data and to argue over the quality and meaning of data.

When folks talk about "the science" and scientific consensus, and the science tells us you are not listening to a scientist but a corrupt power mongering bureaucrat or a budding totalitarian politician trying to cover up their own ignorance, and dictate the last word on the subject - you know like Biden or that Fauxi fraud.

5 posted on 11/25/2021 4:39:48 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

I know.

The other thing that irritates me to the point of infuriation is their penchant to substitute consensus for science, especially since they regard consensus as valid when they pick and choose whose “consensus” will qualify something as “science”.

Skepticism is a foundational underpinning of science.

In all of this, my respect for medical science has plummeted to nearly non-existence. And I work in medicine.

The same people I see telling me to “trust the science” are the same people denying that XY chromosomes mean a person is a male, and XX chromosomes means a person is a female.


6 posted on 11/25/2021 5:49:18 AM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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To: AndyJackson

When “scientists” started telling me men could get pregnant, I KNEW their brand of science was corrupted all to hell. My BS was in Biology, BTW, although I only spent a few years working as one.


10 posted on 11/25/2021 6:19:02 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: AndyJackson

As a research scientist, I contend all the fields of science usually contains a huge dose of politics and Scientists are anything but “a noisy and contentious lot”. To get published and not be pushed out of their fields they must blend in and promote the accepted theories. No grant will be given, no tenure will be given and no paid positions will be given otherwise. There has been many good scientists that were rejected and often shown to be right only after their death, and not a few.


14 posted on 11/25/2021 6:59:57 AM PST by jimfr
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