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All Cause Mortality in Britain: Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.
t.me ^ | November 20, 2021 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 11/20/2021 8:32:52 AM PST by ransomnote

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To: volunbeer
One of the most striking developments is the dramatic rise in Covid-19 cases in many of the countries with the world's highest vaccination rates: Singapore, Gibraltar, the UK, Austria, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Ireland, Iceland, South Korea, etc.

Some of these countries are in the top 10, virtually all of them are in the top 40 or so. All have a vaccination rate of 65% or higher, and - along with natural immunity - should have an immune population of 75-90%, well above the traditional threshold for herd immunity. That is NOT happening, and we need to know why.
41 posted on 11/20/2021 9:28:06 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: lastchance

You are missing the big picture—this is not a science fiction “target one group with a bioweapon” stuff.

This is “flatten the curve”, the population curve stuff.

Any population. Any which way they can.

Save the planet because there are too many people stuff.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

The fascist elites want more “breathing space” in their dystopian future.


42 posted on 11/20/2021 9:29:46 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: bagster

We’re hearing stories the last month or so from folks whose elderly loved one got a shot or a booster. Lots of unexpected deaths from sonething other than the coof or anything they were already afflicted with.

I’m starting to wonder if these damn things are all that great for the elderly.


43 posted on 11/20/2021 9:31:27 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: bagster

“Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated individuals.”

You can’t understand a simple statement like this.
You seem to one of the people who desperately find kooky conspiracy websites to cherry pick data to support your views.


44 posted on 11/20/2021 9:32:23 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton's )
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To: Steve_Seattle

We need to acknowledge “why”. We know the answer.

The data is clear. The vaccines DO NOT WORK against whatever variant(s) of Covid is now more prevalent.

There is also a lot of noise in the data that the vaccines are affecting other illnesses in a potentially adverse manner.

Combine this knowledge with the adverse reactions and minimal risks for most people and the vaccinate everyone plan is foolish - even deadly.

This is criminal.


45 posted on 11/20/2021 9:33:38 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: bagster

The implosion of the “safe and effective” narrative is a beautiful thing to watch.


46 posted on 11/20/2021 9:34:58 AM PST by tatown
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To: semimojo

The article wasn’t about COVID deaths, so Here in the Heartland was the one throwing out misinformation—or at least flak—in an pretty pitiful attempt make it look like the data doesn’t show what it clearly does.

If you and Here in the Heartland don’t apologize for your spreading of misinformation, then we can only assume that’s exactly what you’re here for. But you won’t get away with it here. Go somewhere else with your obvious attempt to sow confusion and doubt.


47 posted on 11/20/2021 9:38:19 AM PST by TauntedTiger (Let's Go Brandon!!!)
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To: ransomnote

There may be another explanation (such as diverting medical resources or delaying treatment for other diseases) but this data, if true, looks ominous.


48 posted on 11/20/2021 9:39:08 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

No idea who Alex Berenson is, but the data source he links to shows his chart is false.
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Your data, and attempt to refute Alex’s, is false. I don’t know you so I guess time will tell if that’s intentional.

He quoted all cause mortality and you refuted with
‘with Covid’ mortality.

Deaths resulting from the ‘vaccine’ are attributed to natural causes - that’s why all cause mortality is up.


49 posted on 11/20/2021 9:39:30 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm


50 posted on 11/20/2021 9:39:56 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: Steve_Seattle

I’m sad to say that every 20, 30, and 40 year old in my office has gotten it. I found out recently that out of 30 people, I am the only one not vaxxed. And I thought at least some of them were smart people.


51 posted on 11/20/2021 9:41:15 AM PST by TauntedTiger (Let's Go Brandon!!!)
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To: volunbeer

Part of this ‘story’ is that there is an effective range from day one of the vaccination. In the case of AstraZenica...you have about 60 days of great protection, and then it rapidly declines. It’s worthless by the fifth month. With the other vaccines...they give you reasonable protection for about 120-150 days, and then their level of protection is marginal.

Swedish University in the past week published results...pretty discouraging if you felt true protection for a year.


52 posted on 11/20/2021 9:42:49 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Look, pendejo. Are you deliberately not understanding what ALL CAUSE DEATHS means?

Those charts don't mention corona virus. Its really a very simple concept, kid.

Look at all the people that died between a specific age range (10 - 59). See which of the dead people were vaxxed or unvaxxed. Count and compare.

That means dead people that died of the corona, from the vax, from falling and bumping their head, from being bored to death from listening to people like you.

ALL CAUSE DEATH.

Think about it, it may come to you. If not, phone a friend.

#WhereDoWeGetTheseGuys


53 posted on 11/20/2021 9:42:52 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: goodnesswins

My perfectly healthy 19-year-old brother too—and for the same reasons. I was so bummed.


54 posted on 11/20/2021 9:42:56 AM PST by TauntedTiger (Let's Go Brandon!!!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

For the THIRD time, Berenson’s data is for ALL deaths, not just Covid-19 deaths. And he eliminates the elderly (high- co-morbidities) and those under 10 (almost entirely unvaccinated).


55 posted on 11/20/2021 9:45:43 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: tatown
The implosion of the “safe and effective” narrative is a beautiful thing to watch.

It is. And watching the poison lovers' desperate attempts to save the vax is delicious. They'll say anything at this point.


56 posted on 11/20/2021 9:46:14 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Bobalu; SamAdams76; Mr Rogers
 SamAdams76 wrote:
I have not gotten the vaccines and don't intend to, but I'm thinking that this graph is a reflection of the fact that people who choose not to get vaccinated are pretty healthy in the first place - so it stands to reason that they would die less than their vaccinated counterparts.

Basically people getting these vaccines are sickly to begin with and are more likely to die sooner. Just my opinion.

 Mr Rogers wrote:

It is plausible that the people under 60 getting the shot are doing so BECAUSE they have significant comorbidities. A healthy 30 year old has no reason to get the shot. Someone with diabetes and heart issues would.

So one should expect higher ALL CAUSE morbidity among younger people who take the shot!

Bobalu wrote:

I’m not among the jabbed but the healthier a person is the less likely they probably are to get the jabs...

So statistically the unjabbed group is possibly healthier than the jabbed group...this may skew the statistics a bit.

The relative health of the vaxxed and unvaxxed is one factor to consider, but it doesn't eliminate the others. It's likely a combination factors. and not 100% attributable to one cause.

It's not just the unhealthy getting the vax. 95% of Britains 18 and older have received two doses because of employment, travel, social restrictions used to twist the arms of most people into getting it. It's possible the 5% unvaxxed have health issues which make them wary of getting the shot (autoimmune, cardio inflammation, clotting concerns, prior strokes and heart attacks etc.)

Microsoft Word - Official Sensitive COVID-19 weekly announced vaccinations 18 November 2021.docx (england.nhs.uk)

But what about the fact that all mortality is up in Britain post 'vaccination'?

The majority of those who are recorded as dying post 'vaccine' (reporting is just a sliver of reality) often do so within a few days:

 

The Covid 'vaccines' are more deadly than the flu vax.

What about the unprecendented level of post vax deaths reported, despite repression of data, post Covid 'vaccination'.

The VAERS data is a tiny sliver, likely less than 1% of the whole picture, at what point does startling degrees of death result in higher death stats for the 'vaccinated'.

Those dying as a result of the 'vaccine' are almost always attributed to natural causes. 
Recall funeral home directors report that 'business' was flat through 2020 (with all cause deaths falsely being labeled 'Covid') and then has exploded post introduction of the 'vaccine'?

The whistleblowers talking about the CDC's lethal Covid Protocol. All these factors mean people are dying outside of Covid- all cause mortality SHOULD be up given the circumstances.

57 posted on 11/20/2021 9:46:47 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: BipolarBob

You can’t prove it’s poison and won’t be able to for 55 years .....

Actually we already know it’s poison from several peer reviewed studies which confirm the spike protein is toxic.

They have other motivations to keep their dirty secrets.


58 posted on 11/20/2021 9:50:01 AM PST by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: ransomnote
"Deaths resulting from the ‘vaccine’ are attributed to natural causes - that’s why all cause mortality is up."

And if a death occurs within two weeks of a vaccination, it is classified as an unvaccinated death, even if there is reason to believe the vaccination caused the death (e.g., when the death occurs within three or four days of the vaccination, and when symptoms occur immediately after or within 24 hours of the vaccination)!
59 posted on 11/20/2021 9:50:10 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: pepsionice

It is discouraging and I agree with your assessment. They will not tell the public that truth. They will not admit what is obvious that natural immunity is far superior and longer lasting either.

They are liars. There is no nice way to say it any more. The corporate medicine practitioners of the US have bought into the lie where trained doctors and scientists refuse to admit the truth and willingly participate in the lie.

I expect lies from the media, big pharma, and politicians. The dishonesty of medical professionals who anecdotally must see this even more clearly than we do is the biggest disappointment to me.

The problem is even larger than just “vaccines”. The therapeutics clearly have efficacy. Despite this, the top-tiered medical system in the world still follows the stay at home until your lips turn blue and come to the hospital plan.

It is outrageous. People should be very angry about what is happening. We are killing people. Literally. On top of that consequence we have crippled our economy, harmed our children, and created a state of fear in our nation.


60 posted on 11/20/2021 9:50:58 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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