Posted on 11/09/2021 12:21:00 PM PST by Signalman
Do you have any articles on risks of those recovered from Covid that take the mRNA injection? My understanding is that there are increased risks of adverse events over those that never had Covid.
i just listened to a talk by Dr. McCollugh (hope i got that right) who is very experienced (board certified and a long time researcher with many papers) and not at all political and he actually advised whole countries to find out who already had covid19 and use them to staff their hospitals.
it’s because once you’ve had it and cleared it naturally, your chances of spreading it are likely nil, in his opinion of course which i would take in a heartbeat over the cdc.
Here’s what bothers me. Of course natural immunity is superior. I also think that previous corona infection confers some partial immunity. For anyone to claim that vaccination is superior to natural immunity has no fundamental understanding of immunology.
So it’s the idiot docs like this one that allow those of us who really are at bedside caring for patients and learning what works to be attacked. We have our very own doctor haters right here in the forum who libel us by calling us murderers. And then you get the dirty and kooky dozen who are making a fortune on internet videos and seminars by also advancing false narratives.
It is becoming tiring to practice medicine when everyone believes they are a friggin expert because some doofus with an MD makes a video they agree with.
At some point enough is enough
And this putz who thinks natural immunity is inferior needs to be removed from the scientific conversation.
I’m sure you are aware that natural immunity refers to those who have recovered. The adverse reaction to natural immunity is that currently 700,000 Americans have died acquiring that natural immunity.
# This is correct for the “vaccine” but incorrect for natural immunity. It probably lasts a lifetime, just like with measles or chickenpox. You get it once, you do not get it again.
# Sars-Cov1 immunity has been shown to last at least 20 years and provides some immunity to Sars-Cov2.
Yeah, but you can’t keep up the skeer once people know about natural immunity
If you had used 2% if the brain power GOD gave you, it would be clear the way historical health failure fauci, gov, medical experts of hollywok, and politically wok physicians who dismissed ALL treatments except NEW, UNTESTED, KILLER VAX......all together heavily promoted this KILLER VAX.
In my family there is a person with a kidney transplant, several over weight persons, and diabetic. ....most have gone a year and a half without any kind of cold/flue. There has been some minor cold/sore throats but nothing like the scare the government media has tried to install in everyone worldwide.
If real doctors, dedicated to healing had been listed to instead of political doctors, the death toll would have been minimal.
In addition, the gov media, sumuvabitch fauchi have mooooved the goal posts (two weeks then back to normal, masks good, then bad, then good again, then good for you but I don't need one. AND VAX passports weren't even spoken of)..... If all of that isn't enough now unVAXED should not be able to work, eat, buy or sell (anyone ever read the Bible's Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ?)
This fiasco isn't compelet without the influence from that college grad (sarc), medical genius Bill Gates.
Wife and I had Covid last Christmas . I have had 3 antibody test starting in May . The antibody level has gone down but not that much . Wife still was tested about Two months ago . She still has antibodies. Cost $75 bucks to get the test and it’s worth it to know where we stand . Neither of us vaciinated.
There’s not a thing any government entity can tell me about Covid or the vax that I will believe.
Thank God for those brave souls who are willing to buck the system and speak out and warn people.
You know this how?
Your credentials are….?
Can you provide a link to cite the study you did to prove this?
@ post 48 - Agree 100%
FR has listed 91 studies that refute this study.
As for this Kentucky study, in the text at the end they itemized several “limitations.”
The last one is as follows:
“Finally, this is a ret- rospective study design using data from a single state during a 2-month period; therefore, these findings cannot be used to infer causation. Additional prospective studies with larger populations are warranted to support these findings.”
Unfortunately I do not…
But I’ve read taking the vaxx after having Covid ruins your natural immunity from having it…
I agree 100% Doc.
I don’t think the Vaccine roll out/program started out as a political event, but it’s certainly becoming obvious the the Left found the Button to push that drives freedom loving Conservatives nuts. Both the vaccinated and unvaccinated Conservatives.
I’ve been watching for any re-infections……I’ve been waiting…..so far ZERO.
Yes……enough is enough.
What I find particularly funny is the antivaxxer trolls don’t even understand what they cut and paste but think they do.
Look at what the troll wrote up thread. Graham has constrictive pericarditis which takes years to develop. Acute pericarditis is not what graham had. What’s funny is the cut and paste troll breathlessly reports that pericarditis syndrome is described in some older patients but the exact words he cut and paste are “self limiting” disease which means that nothing came of it
What a yutz. Another arm chair expert who proves his ignorance.
So the CDC is claiming that their mRNA jab is superior to Gods own design of natural immunity? I would say that’s mocking God and straight from Satan’s worshippers
>>I have no doubt the vaccine loses its effectiveness over time - but where have you seen that natural immunity also does? (Honest question, I really would like to know).
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This issue would be methodology at the cellular level. Vax emulates normal immune stimulation.
I suppose the political folks want immunity from prior infection (I am reluctant to call this “natural” since the virus is not natural) to be all powerful so they can avoid vax, but since vax is an emulation of recovery, and real world data suggests vax is a 6 month thing, one must presume recovery immunity behaves the same. The burden of proof that recovery immunity is different from vax immunity would have to be met before one declares that the emulation happened to fail in that particular way.
It is really best to ignore the politics of it all. Instead, follow the decisions of Russia’s health ministry, or China’s or anyone who doesn’t give a damn about US politics.
Are you making stuff up, or just “feel” this is true?
I retain antibodies a year after having covid.
Do you have a titer % from the initial level? You will retain antibodies to just about everything you ever had in your whole life, but it may not be in sufficient quantity.
People get malaria in SE Asia and Africa many times over the course of their lives. The phrase is “immunity fades”. It doesn’t have to go to zero for you to get re-infected.
Go get your booster every 6 months and live well.
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