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To: SomeCallMeTim; ransomnote
I wanted to look at deaths from the latest UK report to see how the vax is doing in that category.

In the report, of the vaccinated, 2,447 deaths were reported. Of the unvaccinated and less than fully vaccinated, 623 deaths were reported. If we even take 80% of the population vaxed, the total of 2,447 deaths among a total of 3,070 deaths is 80%!!! 80% of the deaths are among the vaccinated. That would seem to be completely unaffected by the vaccine, 80% vaxed and 80% of the deaths would seem completely normalized among the population.

So I tried to look up what 95% effectiveness against death was. I found this at one place touting 94% effectiveness for Pfizer against death:

Post dose two the relative risk of death rate stabilises after 14 days to 0.04 i.e., the vaccine is 96% effective at reducing COVID-19 mortality risk relative to unvaccinated individuals.

It really looks like another fail, yes? Are the vaccinated doing much better than unvaccinated in the report regarding death from COVID19?

I would say this. What would SHINE in these statistics is immunity acquired by infection. That is probably why the rate of infection and death in these UK numbers seem so low compared to the vaccinated populations. A large portion of the population now have antibodies. The problem is that these antibodies are NOT ALL equal in providing protection from infection, that is obvious.

Consider this statement from the report that said the UK is now at 60.9% vaccinated: Based on antibody testing of blood donors, 98.0% of the adult population now have antibodies to COVID-19 from either infection or vaccination compared to 18.7% that have antibodies from infection alone.

I can't make sense out of that really. I guess they are saying that 79.3% have antibodies from shots and/or infection, while 18.7% have antibodies from infection alone and 2% have no antibodies at all. That would explain why the unvaccinated are doing so well in comparison to the vaccinated in the report. In any case, is there, or should there be, any kind of pandemic where 98% of the adult population is showing antibodies against the virus?

Something is definitely stinking here.

11 posted on 11/06/2021 10:59:33 AM PDT by Religion and Politics
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To: Religion and Politics
I would say this. What would SHINE in these statistics is immunity acquired by infection. That is probably why the rate of infection and death in these UK numbers seem so low compared to the vaccinated populations. A large portion of the population now have antibodies. The problem is that these antibodies are NOT ALL equal in providing protection from infection, that is obvious.

This study does that, comparing an Israeli and CDC study.

13 posted on 11/06/2021 12:57:52 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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