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The day Alec Baldwin shot Halyna Hutchins and Joel Souza
GazetteXtra ^ | Nov 2, 2021 | Meg James, Amy Kaufman and Julia Wick

Posted on 11/02/2021 1:17:07 PM PDT by conservative98

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1 posted on 11/02/2021 1:17:07 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Should’ve checked the chambers.


2 posted on 11/02/2021 1:19:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: conservative98

So she lived for a minute or two....damn


3 posted on 11/02/2021 1:20:40 PM PDT by waterhill
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To: Jeff Chandler

Shouldn’t have pointed it anyone and pulled the trigger.


4 posted on 11/02/2021 1:22:17 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Spoiler from NCIS last night.
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In the show, a man was killed buy a starter pistol with a blank round in it.
I assume this was filmed weeks/months ago.


5 posted on 11/02/2021 1:31:42 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: conservative98

“What the f-— was that? That burns!” Souza screamed.”

Is it true that a person who is shot will not hear the sound of the gun?


6 posted on 11/02/2021 1:34:07 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: conservative98

Single action revolver. He had to cock the pistol first, or the trigger wouldn’t drop the hammer.

Also many (all?) of these types of single action revolvers do not have a pull out cylinder. They have a portal and you have pull that portal aside and load a few bullets at a time, then rotate the cylinder to load the rest. Same with unloading it. In my opinion its a lot easier to make a mistake with this kind of weapon because there is no quick inspection method and no quick unloading of all rounds method as you would find with double-action revolvers where the cylinder can pop out sideways to inspect (and press a button that will discharge all the shells) or even semi-autos to clear them (remove the magazine, then rack the slide to discharge any loaded round).

Some training on how to check and clear a single action revolver was necessary. However, ignorance is not an excuse. The person who held the weapon should know. And they should’ve used a disabled replica for rehearsals.


7 posted on 11/02/2021 1:35:32 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: waterhill
So she lived for a minute or two....damn

I do not wish on my worst enemy to watch a person die slowly, knowing it is coming, but the body is fighting for life.

8 posted on 11/02/2021 1:36:04 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: conservative98
Shouldn’t have pointed it anyone and pulled the trigger.

Had they used remote monitors, those people would not have been in the line of fire.

9 posted on 11/02/2021 1:37:16 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: monkeyshine

Well explained - thanks.


10 posted on 11/02/2021 1:39:30 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: conservative98
Shouldn’t have pointed it anyone and pulled the trigger.

Hollywood has a rule that no live ammo is allowed on set....that was violated.

They need another rule that no firearm (prop or not) should be pointed at staff for any reason. Remote cameras and monitors MUST be used for those scenes.

Firearm owners live by the mantra that no firearm or toy should be pointed toward people. It is time that Hollywood catches up.

11 posted on 11/02/2021 1:40:33 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: monkeyshine

There should NEVER be an intermediary between the armorer and the actor.

The armorer should be on-site and be the person to hand the weapon to the actor....not someone else.


12 posted on 11/02/2021 1:44:09 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: conservative98

Watch for a future movie: The Man Who Shot Halyna Hutchins.


13 posted on 11/02/2021 1:46:03 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Erik Latranyi

I agree. And even still, it is the actor’s responsibility since he/she will be pulling the trigger. That’s just routine weapons safety. Someone, anyone, even an expert, hands you a weapon you check it yourself.

I saw a clip of the Assistant Director’s attorney, she was a bit evasive (which I understand because she has to protect her client) but she claimed there is testimony that Baldwin had the weapon but wanted/needed to adjust his holster so he handed the weapon to the AD to hold for a few seconds while he fiddled with his belt. That isn’t necessarily the true account, just what the lawyer claimed from 3rd party witness statements.

FWIW, she also said maybe it went from the armor to the AD to the actor all in one fast motion. E.g. like baton hand to hand.


14 posted on 11/02/2021 1:50:18 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Erik Latranyi
There should NEVER be an intermediary between the armorer and the actor.

It's becoming clear that Hannah Gutierrez was an "Armorer In Name Only". Other people had the combo to her safe, handled and issued weapons, etc. It doesn't appear she was in control of the weapons at all.

15 posted on 11/02/2021 1:52:17 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: conservative98

A little basic morality also comes into play. A bunch of Hollywood types were having great fun portraying a man shooting someone in a church.

Not exactly John Wayne kind of behavior.


16 posted on 11/02/2021 1:52:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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Had they used remote monitors, those people would not have been in the line of fire.

Normally they use ballistic shields to protect the people AND the cameras.

17 posted on 11/02/2021 1:56:51 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: conservative98

The person that pulled the trigger is the one responsible, regardless of whoever else was involved. Period.


18 posted on 11/02/2021 2:01:59 PM PDT by Bitman
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawyer-rust-assistant-director-accused-102045555.html


19 posted on 11/02/2021 2:08:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: conservative98

What happened?

You just murdered someone because you are way too stupid to know how to handle a gun.


20 posted on 11/02/2021 2:17:18 PM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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