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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I think what Luther did backfired. You all lost the fundamentals of the True Church of our Lord.

How many thousands and thousands of souls were misled?
Thank goodness for Purgatory.

Words. The Protestants use Words. In the True Church we have the Real presence of Chris.

Sad for yous, all you have are words.


23 posted on 10/31/2021 7:05:53 PM PDT by BarbM (FU Pence. You refuse to be alone with a woman, but have no compunction in screwing the USA))
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To: BarbM
You raise some interesting concepts. I'll do my best to address them, since I disagree with what you wrote.

--> I think what Luther did backfired. You all lost the fundamentals of the True Church of our Lord.

Christians lost nothing that is fundamental to salvation, nor to Christian maturity. All of this is contained in inspired Scripture.

--> How many thousands and thousands of souls were misled?

Zero. But billions have been lied to by Rome.

--> Thank goodness for Purgatory.

Never in Scripture.

--> Words. The Protestants use Words. In the True Church we have the Real presence of Chris.

Saved Christians are indwelt by the the Holy Spirit, sealed by Him, raised, have assurance of salvation, and eagerly await our reunion. The Lord's Supper, which I assume you refer to by using the phrase, "Real Presence", is to be done in remembrance until He returns. Until then, His real presence is with us and He says He will never desert us nor forsake us.

I would add that there are three Christian views about this outside of Romanism:

1. It is a "bare memorial", meaning just an ordered rememberance.
2. The Lord is present in the sacrament.
3. The Lord is more physically present.

Belief in any of these is not required for salvation. And you will find saved Christians who believe each of these. That's perfectly fine.

"In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity."

--> Sad for yous, all you have are words.

Oh, no. Not just words.

Christ Himself, co-heirs with Christ, seated in the heavenlies with Christ. sealed until we are redeemed by the Holy Spirit, forgiven of all sins - past, present, future, we have the imputed righteousness of Christ, we have assurance of salvation, we have the life of the Holy Spirit, we have His guidance, comfort, relationship. We know Him. We have an actual relationship.

As a former Catholic, altar boy, confirmed, etc., I came to saving faith in Christ in college. I know Him.

There is nothing I would give up in Him to go back to a system of paganism mixed with Christianity, of useless works and rituals that cannot save, nor to the Roman Hamster Wheel of Guilt.

Salvation comes not through any church, but through entrusting yourself to Him alone, by faith, apart from ritual, church, works, etc.

Never regretted coming to Him for a millisecond

Would never go back to pagan Rome and give up Christ and salvation.

Do you know you have salvation, now? If not, it is sad for you. I do. Hundreds of millions of believers do.

24 posted on 10/31/2021 7:31:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: BarbM
Words. The Protestants use Words. In the True Church we have the Real presence of Chris.

What a guy, that Chris.
27 posted on 11/01/2021 6:51:59 PM PDT by Old Yeller (You can’t obey your way out of tyranny.)
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