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To: BenLurkin; cgbg
Ben Rich was the second director of Lockheed Skunkworks from 1975-1991. He’s been called the Father of Stealth, having overseen the development of the stealth fighter, the F-117A nighthawk. Before his death, Rich made several shocking open statements about the reality of UFOs and extraterrestrials.
“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do it.”
“We now have technology to take ET home. No it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars.”
“There are two types of UFOs — the ones we build and the ones ‘they’ build.”
This 3 minute video is an interview with an engineer who witnessed those statements by Ben Rich and spoke with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83QIbUkgzeg
43 posted on 10/28/2021 10:23:34 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Your friends might get me in a rush but not before I make your head into a canoe.)
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To: dainbramaged

So that oft-quoted “travelled to the stars” remark was not first person, not recorded, was based on an interview with an engineer “who heard it”. LOL


48 posted on 10/28/2021 10:37:00 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: dainbramaged

I have read a ton of stuff on the UFOs, aliens etc and changed my mind on this stuff several times over the years.

My current thinking—ignore anything that has government or government contractors involved—it is disinformation to cover secret weapons development.

The classic case of that:

https://www.amazon.com/Project-Beta-Bennewitz-National-Security-ebook/dp/B000FCK0KI

But—there is a there there if you know where to look. I am of the Terence McKenna school that the UFOs/”aliens” do have an agenda, and it is to disupt/foil/undermine/mindf&^% science and existing institutions. Therefore to use government to look at it is like utilizing fish to study bicycles.

For a crash course of the McKenna perspective:

https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-261-the-definitive-ufo-tape/

You may be tempted to dismiss Terence as a crank.

Don’t do it—he was one of the most brilliant and creative minds that Homo Sapiens has produced to date—far ahead of his time.


52 posted on 10/28/2021 10:52:51 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: dainbramaged

Your mention of Ben Rich brings to mind something I heard many years ago. There is a government agency/agencies that use the very real Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 (Pub.L. 82–256, 66 Stat. 3, enacted February 1, 1952, codified at 35 U.S.C. ch. 17) to seize ownership of patents and devices that the government wants to keep for itself.

The purported agency has had a possible name attributed to it: Bureau of Technology Control.

Seems entirely plausible to me that the UFO technology that has been documented in recent years is being employed by an American agency. Why? Because if it were not then the DoD would be crapping themselves responding to the threat.

Instead they’ve long mocked and ridiculed anyone mentioning this technology. Which is an effective way to silence people (Saul Alinsky).

So yes, I would not be surprised to find out that Star Trek levels of technology exist because, well, some Star Trek levels of technology DO exist. In fact, some of our technology in use today far exceeds anything Star Trek imagined.


53 posted on 10/28/2021 10:56:16 AM PDT by MercyFlush (IT’S NOT A VACCINE. Once you accept this then everything else starts to make sense.)
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To: dainbramaged

Fascinating, thanks for sharing and for the link.


69 posted on 10/31/2021 10:01:14 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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