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Officer Tatum: "Alec Baldwin WAS NEGLIGENT and should be CHARGED"
https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1208818/officer-tatum-alec-baldwin-was-negligent-and-should-be-charged ^ | 23 Oct 2021 | Michael Yon

Posted on 10/24/2021 1:39:07 PM PDT by Rokke

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To: Disambiguator

More importantly, he’s “Animal Mother” from FMJ.


61 posted on 10/24/2021 5:29:53 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Rokke

The standard in NM is “reckless” conduct resulting in a loss of life. Indeed he should be charged.


62 posted on 10/24/2021 5:34:19 PM PDT by jimfree (My 18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: Cobra64

Shooters load mags, insert mags into mag wells, racks the slide

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Small point, it was a revolver.


63 posted on 10/24/2021 5:45:09 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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To: SamAdams76

I read the other day that the local NM sheriff has been out of town. He is scheduled to be back working Monday. This is likely the reason there has been a dearth of info since the shooting incident.


64 posted on 10/24/2021 6:13:03 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Who will portray Alec Baldwin in the SNL skit? )
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To: Vendome

Whoever pulled the trigger is responsible.


65 posted on 10/24/2021 6:21:56 PM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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To: AlaskaErik
It was one negligent discharge.

I’m talking about the two “misfires” earlier in the week. I heard they weren’t misfires, but they were accidental discharges of live ammunition.

66 posted on 10/24/2021 6:23:38 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: fhayek

Absolutely!


67 posted on 10/24/2021 6:30:02 PM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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To: Rokke

Amid all the trivial debate about accidents and misfires, here’s a real thought experiment:

Just how ridiculously coincidental is it that the cylinder of a revolver (6 holes, I imagine) is loaded with five blanks and one live round when the person loading the pistol handles six cartridges, five being flat-tipped with wax or wadding level with the brass of the cartridge AND one cartridge with a round tip, the slug, protruding above the brass and not noticing, when, after all, every single round has to be handled with the fingers and inserted into the cylinder individually????

And even more incredible, add this: how astronomically coincidental is it that the live round is loaded into the precise hole in the cylinder that will rotate into the firing position the first time the weapon is fired?

I would say so unlikely are these two coincidences, back to back, that I might argue that this wasn’t an accidental anything, misfire or otherwise.

Did we not read that a union crew walked off the job in protest and nonunion labor was hired?

Does the word sabotage ring a bell in anybody’s thought experiment?


68 posted on 10/24/2021 6:31:29 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Vendome

oh methinks more than one person is responsible...but the buck stops with baldwin, he had the last opportunity to not kill, either by checking the weapon or not pointing it at a person and pulling the trigger...anything else is an excuse criminal negligence imo.


69 posted on 10/24/2021 6:36:57 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: JD_UTDallas

Under this explanation, any actor having a disagreement with another, becomes immune to prosecution, if he intentionally shoots and kills that actor, because it was “part of a rehearsal or scene”?
I’m not buying that for a second.


70 posted on 10/24/2021 6:43:55 PM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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To: gloryblaze
"Has anyone here previously read of the incident being labeled a “misfire?” I haven’t."

Yes.
CBS Mornings - Breaking Overnight
ALEC BALDWIN MOVIE SET TRAGEDY
Cinematographer killed after actor's prop gun misfires on movie set.

71 posted on 10/24/2021 6:55:17 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: StAntKnee

“I would say so unlikely are these two coincidences, back to back, that I might argue that this wasn’t an accidental anything, misfire or otherwise.
Did we not read that a union crew walked off the job in protest and nonunion labor was hired?
Does the word sabotage ring a bell in anybody’s thought experiment?”

YES, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, IN MINE; I SAID:

“I posted this on another thread a while back. Yesterday evening on Fox on Judge Jeannine’s show, Gregg Jarrett (lawyer) said the exact same thing (a disgruntled union employee loaded live cartridge in gun for revenge). As I’m the only one who posted this slant on what might have happened, I wonder if Jarrett read my comment. Here’s what I said:

“Were the Union guys, some of whom can be real thugs in their own right, (mafia-like) really PO’d at Alec Baldwin who is a big pig (his daughter was the little pig, remember), enough so as to set him up?

Could one of his disgruntled union employees have loaded a live bullet into the chamber of the gun hoping for an incident, to prove how Baldwin wasn’t paying enough attention to safety? Or loaded a live bullet in the gun just for revenge against Baldwin as he is such a jerk?”


72 posted on 10/24/2021 6:55:44 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior AIvisor))
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To: Scooter100
Has anyone here previously read of the incident being labeled a “misfire?” I haven’t." Yes.

CBS Mornings - Breaking Overnight ALEC BALDWIN MOVIE SET TRAGEDY Cinematographer killed after actor's prop gun misfires on movie set.

Quick work there, Scooter.

We need you on the scene!

73 posted on 10/24/2021 7:08:50 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: StAntKnee; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

I might add, the union crew had not been paid for 3 weeks. Baldwin was stiffing them; all the more reason for one of them possibly harboring a revenge motive.


74 posted on 10/24/2021 7:09:59 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior AIvisor))
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To: Rokke

True story…….

Massapequa, NY. 1972 through 1976.

We had a rifle range/fallout shelter in the basement of Massapequa High School. We had a rifle team (all Nassau County). If you didn’t know gun safety by the time you tried out for the rifle team, you were given several hours of instruction before you touched a gun. If you slacked, you were gone. Who was the rifle coach?

Alexander Baldwin, Sr.

Again, true story.

Little Alec should have known better. (He graduated in 1976 too).


75 posted on 10/24/2021 7:15:32 PM PDT by ExcitableBoy360
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To: Scooter100
RUMORS FROM THE SET OF "Rust"...

1. A 23-year old props girl rented guns from a professional armorer and asked him if she could also take the guns to a shooting range to fire them off when not filming. He said, "F##k no, do not let live ammunition go anywhere near these guns at any point". So guess what she does?

2. Eventually she somehow ended up mixing live rounds with blanks, and loaded a revolver which ended up with Alec Baldwin to use.

3. Apparently Alec Baldwin decided to just spontaneously shoot at the DP as a joke, or something. It wasn't part of ANY action being rehearsed, blocked or filmed. He was basically "horsing around".

4. It is believed the single bullet fired went through the DP's chest and hit the director in the shoulder.

76 posted on 10/24/2021 7:20:01 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: flaglady47

Good call. With a lot more detail than my post.


77 posted on 10/24/2021 7:41:20 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Fightin Whitey
Aww, shucks, thanks Whitey!

I have a screen shot if anyone needs it.

The reason I saved it was due to three CBS statements...

a. It played down that Baldwin was the shooter.
b. Calling a functional firearm a "prop gun", while technically true, tends to play down the fact that it was a fully working weapon.
c. When a gun "misfires", it typically fails to discharge, which certainly wasn't the case here. Old six-shooter revolvers can "misfire" if you load all six chambers, and accidentally give the hammer a sharp blow. Most experts only load five, leaving the hammer to rest safely against a vacant chamber.

78 posted on 10/24/2021 7:57:00 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

I am so curious to learn if any or all of these rumors are true.

Apparently both the guy that handed Baldwin the revolver AND the armorer had past and current safety issues.

It’s shaping up to be a fascinating PR contest between the unions, Baldwin, and the non-union crew that came on after the union walked. Behind the scenes are insurance companies, law enforcement, local DA’s and public sentiment.


79 posted on 10/24/2021 8:31:10 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Graybeard58

Same safety concept though. Know the gun and what’s in it.


80 posted on 10/24/2021 10:39:05 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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