Posted on 10/24/2021 1:39:07 PM PDT by Rokke
More importantly, he’s “Animal Mother” from FMJ.
The standard in NM is “reckless” conduct resulting in a loss of life. Indeed he should be charged.
Shooters load mags, insert mags into mag wells, racks the slide
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Small point, it was a revolver.
I read the other day that the local NM sheriff has been out of town. He is scheduled to be back working Monday. This is likely the reason there has been a dearth of info since the shooting incident.
Whoever pulled the trigger is responsible.
I’m talking about the two “misfires” earlier in the week. I heard they weren’t misfires, but they were accidental discharges of live ammunition.
Absolutely!
Amid all the trivial debate about accidents and misfires, here’s a real thought experiment:
Just how ridiculously coincidental is it that the cylinder of a revolver (6 holes, I imagine) is loaded with five blanks and one live round when the person loading the pistol handles six cartridges, five being flat-tipped with wax or wadding level with the brass of the cartridge AND one cartridge with a round tip, the slug, protruding above the brass and not noticing, when, after all, every single round has to be handled with the fingers and inserted into the cylinder individually????
And even more incredible, add this: how astronomically coincidental is it that the live round is loaded into the precise hole in the cylinder that will rotate into the firing position the first time the weapon is fired?
I would say so unlikely are these two coincidences, back to back, that I might argue that this wasn’t an accidental anything, misfire or otherwise.
Did we not read that a union crew walked off the job in protest and nonunion labor was hired?
Does the word sabotage ring a bell in anybody’s thought experiment?
oh methinks more than one person is responsible...but the buck stops with baldwin, he had the last opportunity to not kill, either by checking the weapon or not pointing it at a person and pulling the trigger...anything else is an excuse criminal negligence imo.
Under this explanation, any actor having a disagreement with another, becomes immune to prosecution, if he intentionally shoots and kills that actor, because it was “part of a rehearsal or scene”?
I’m not buying that for a second.
Yes.
CBS Mornings - Breaking Overnight
ALEC BALDWIN MOVIE SET TRAGEDY
Cinematographer killed after actor's prop gun misfires on movie set.
“I would say so unlikely are these two coincidences, back to back, that I might argue that this wasn’t an accidental anything, misfire or otherwise.
Did we not read that a union crew walked off the job in protest and nonunion labor was hired?
Does the word sabotage ring a bell in anybody’s thought experiment?”
YES, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, IN MINE; I SAID:
“I posted this on another thread a while back. Yesterday evening on Fox on Judge Jeannine’s show, Gregg Jarrett (lawyer) said the exact same thing (a disgruntled union employee loaded live cartridge in gun for revenge). As I’m the only one who posted this slant on what might have happened, I wonder if Jarrett read my comment. Here’s what I said:
“Were the Union guys, some of whom can be real thugs in their own right, (mafia-like) really PO’d at Alec Baldwin who is a big pig (his daughter was the little pig, remember), enough so as to set him up?
Could one of his disgruntled union employees have loaded a live bullet into the chamber of the gun hoping for an incident, to prove how Baldwin wasn’t paying enough attention to safety? Or loaded a live bullet in the gun just for revenge against Baldwin as he is such a jerk?”
CBS Mornings - Breaking Overnight ALEC BALDWIN MOVIE SET TRAGEDY Cinematographer killed after actor's prop gun misfires on movie set.
Quick work there, Scooter.
We need you on the scene!
I might add, the union crew had not been paid for 3 weeks. Baldwin was stiffing them; all the more reason for one of them possibly harboring a revenge motive.
True storyâ¦â¦.
Massapequa, NY. 1972 through 1976.
We had a rifle range/fallout shelter in the basement of Massapequa High School. We had a rifle team (all Nassau County). If you didnâÂÂt know gun safety by the time you tried out for the rifle team, you were given several hours of instruction before you touched a gun. If you slacked, you were gone. Who was the rifle coach?
Alexander Baldwin, Sr.
Again, true story.
Little Alec should have known better. (He graduated in 1976 too).
1. A 23-year old props girl rented guns from a professional armorer and asked him if she could also take the guns to a shooting range to fire them off when not filming. He said, "F##k no, do not let live ammunition go anywhere near these guns at any point". So guess what she does?
2. Eventually she somehow ended up mixing live rounds with blanks, and loaded a revolver which ended up with Alec Baldwin to use.
3. Apparently Alec Baldwin decided to just spontaneously shoot at the DP as a joke, or something. It wasn't part of ANY action being rehearsed, blocked or filmed. He was basically "horsing around".
4. It is believed the single bullet fired went through the DP's chest and hit the director in the shoulder.
Good call. With a lot more detail than my post.
I have a screen shot if anyone needs it.
The reason I saved it was due to three CBS statements...
a. It played down that Baldwin was the shooter.
b. Calling a functional firearm a "prop gun", while technically true, tends to play down the fact that it was a fully working weapon.
c. When a gun "misfires", it typically fails to discharge, which certainly wasn't the case here. Old six-shooter revolvers can "misfire" if you load all six chambers, and accidentally give the hammer a sharp blow. Most experts only load five, leaving the hammer to rest safely against a vacant chamber.
I am so curious to learn if any or all of these rumors are true.
Apparently both the guy that handed Baldwin the revolver AND the armorer had past and current safety issues.
It’s shaping up to be a fascinating PR contest between the unions, Baldwin, and the non-union crew that came on after the union walked. Behind the scenes are insurance companies, law enforcement, local DA’s and public sentiment.
Same safety concept though. Know the gun and what’s in it.
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