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Death on a Movie Set: Ex-Prosecutors, Attorneys React to Alec Baldwin’s Shocking Prop Gun Shooting Accident
MSN News ^ | October 21, 2021 | Aaron Keller

Posted on 10/22/2021 12:50:07 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

A deadly shooting on the set of the Alec Baldwin film “Rust” in Santa Fe County, New Mexico, has resulted in a debate among legal minds about the possibility and likelihood of litigation — even as many of the facts of the matter remain shrouded as of the time of this writing.

It remains officially unclear how a prop gun — generally outfitted with blanks — was discharged by Baldwin on a movie set. The gunshot managed to kill cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, 42, and injure director Joel Souza, 48. The accident happened at the Bonanza Creek Ranch, a stereotypical western film set used frequently by production crews on the southern outskirts of Santa Fe.

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However, the New York Post, citing Indie Wire, said that a union which represented prop masters learned that a “live round” was fired. The union said its members were not on set and that local “New Mexico crew members” were, according to the reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: alec; alecbaldwin; baldwin; banglist; bidenvoters; halynahutchins; joelsouza; moviesetsafety; newmexico; nm; rust
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To: DJ MacWoW
Wow! Such compassion!

Ya didn't wait quite long enough, ya should have read post #112 by Covenantor, then you could have considered how much compassion Halyna Hutchins had for the host of people damaged by Baldwin.

121 posted on 10/22/2021 2:47:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
then you could have considered how much compassion Halyna Hutchins had for the host of people damaged by Baldwin.

Are THEY dead? No. You hate Baldwin and you are letting your hate color your thinking. The Director/Writer bears some blame. He and Baldwin are partners in the project. But your hatred, based on politics, blinds you....just like the left.

122 posted on 10/22/2021 2:51:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Brookhaven
The prop-master, the person tasked with preparing the gun and ensuring it was properly loaded (with blanks) is the LEGALLY responsible person.

Many don’t want to hear that.

I’m considering two scenarios.

1. Movie has a scene where the camera points right down the barrel and the director directs him to fire. He fires, kills the cinematographer behind the camera.

2. I’ve seen sketchy reports saying he was told they were going to reshoot a scene. He jokingly says “I should shoot both of you”, pulls the trigger, kills the cinematographer.

To me if #1, prop master is liable. If #2, he is negligent and liable. Or at least gets a big share of the blame.

The released facts are pretty thin at this point. Maybe neither of those are true
123 posted on 10/22/2021 3:00:49 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Navy Patriot

https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/prop-gun-used-by-alec-baldwin-in-shooting-contained-live-round-union/

Prop gun fired by Alec Baldwin in fatal shooting contained live round: union


124 posted on 10/22/2021 3:18:57 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: DJ MacWoW
Are THEY dead? No.

So of all the people Baldwin injured, only the dead ones deserve compassion?

You're a swell guy.

You hate Baldwin ...

Where did I say that? I have only expressed my opinion of Baldwin's qualities.

...you are letting your hate color your thinking...

...your hatred, based on politics, blinds you...

You sure know a lot about me, considering you don't know anything about me at all, and are willing to move to personal attacks because I show concern for a different group of people than you.

Just like the Left.

125 posted on 10/22/2021 3:39:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
You sure know a lot about me,

Your posts scream for themselves.

126 posted on 10/22/2021 3:42:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: rktman

I would speculate that to save money on special effects, live ammo was used in some scenes. Property manager and/ or armorer got sloppy.


127 posted on 10/22/2021 3:44:13 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: LeoTDB69
Thanks, Leo, I don't know if anyone acting for the Union was involved or had any ill intent or if it was simply routine Union involvement over workplace rules, contract rules and worker representation.

Still, it's good information to have.

128 posted on 10/22/2021 3:49:41 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My posts sure make you scream.


129 posted on 10/22/2021 3:52:16 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Hardly. Your callousness makes me sick.


130 posted on 10/22/2021 3:59:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Brookhaven
That’s the way the system works in film production. The prop-master prepares the weapon & guarantees it is safe. The actor accepts the word of the prop-master that the gun is safe. That’s the system.

I agree with you, but does it still hold true if the incident occurred outside the actual production (not part of the script)?

The fact that a homicide has been committed throws a major monkey wrench in this event. If a perp wanted to frame someone, this would be too easy.

131 posted on 10/22/2021 4:00:12 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Hildy

Disagree. The #1 rule is that the person holding the gun must make sure it’s not loaded. If that individual does not, he must assume it is loaded and not point it at anyone. Actors not exempt from gun safety rules.


132 posted on 10/22/2021 4:12:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Disagree. The #1 rule is that the person holding the gun must make sure it’s not loaded. If that individual does not, he must assume it is loaded and not point it at anyone. Actors not exempt from gun safety rules.

Even children know to verify the weapon is not loaded.

133 posted on 10/22/2021 4:13:30 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Leep

He was rehearsing a scene. Why would ANYONE need to pull the actual trigger in a rehearsal?


134 posted on 10/22/2021 4:14:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Navy Patriot

Be careful, Ryzan. Most things in there dont react well to bullets.


135 posted on 10/22/2021 4:21:04 PM PDT by Bernard (The very best scientific articles always contain this phrase: “My personal intuition has been…”)
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Let’s look at his Industry credentials:

He’s Extremely Left in an Industry that’s 99.999% Extremely Left.

Hates Trump.

Pathologically, explosive , hair trigger temper / violence, ready to explode any moment.

Anti Police

Anti Military

Hollywood leftists galore will help cover his ass. He’ll get off scot free.


136 posted on 10/22/2021 5:58:40 PM PDT by PhineasSpear (PhineasSpear)
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To: Sacajaweau

Colt’s are too pricey to be props. Probably one of the Italian clones.


137 posted on 10/22/2021 6:07:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Our commie Gov is already on TV talking about what a tragedy it is. Anything not to harm the lucrative movie business here.


138 posted on 10/22/2021 6:13:00 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: sjmjax

Have you priced .45 Colt recently? 😀


139 posted on 10/22/2021 6:17:28 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Brookhaven; Yogafist

What if the actor had some of the responsibility for hiring the prop-master as one of the producers?


140 posted on 10/22/2021 10:26:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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