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Are Covid ‘Vaccines’ Giving People AIDS? Immune System Functions Are Dropping Around 5% EACH WEEK in Those Who Were Vaccinated
Based ^ | 10/17/21 | Ethan Huff

Posted on 10/17/2021 3:23:59 PM PDT by datura

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To: Paul R.

“I’m beginning to believe that might not totally preclude spread.”

It is now very clear that our current vaccines don’t stop the spread of the Delta variant (even though they greatly improve the outcomes for those infected).

Maybe a nasal vaccine (at least 7 are being developed/tested) would be more effective at stopping transmission by Delta. The proliferation of Delta in the Nasal cavities is dramatically quicker and massively more extensive. Symptoms in 4 days on average, versus six for earlier strains - and about a thousand times the viral load. Quite a sudden bloom - a very different calculus.

Nasal vaccines (or natural infection) induce an immune response in the nasal mucosa themselves (immunoglobulin A, or IgA), as opposed to the intramuscular injected vaccines, where the immune response is created in the bloodstream. There are approved nasal Flu vaccines, but I think you have to be under 50 in the USA to qualify for them.

So nasal vaccines probably would mount a quicker reaction to Delta in the nasal passages, but we’ll just have to see if that will be enough to effectively reduce transmission.


161 posted on 10/19/2021 12:22:41 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Agreed. However, I was speculating that in particular it might be possible for a person with a case so mild (from being vaccinated or otherwise) that by the time they got tested they’d test negative, to still at some point be able to spread to a vulnerable person.

On a related note: It was at least for me and my daughter today, far more difficult to get tested for COVID than it was last fall. (The backdrop is that she’s brought home from school (almost certainly) some sort of cold-like illness with a strong fatigue component, mild fever, nasal congestion, and some chest congestion / coughing. I started showing similar but weaker symptoms ~3 days days later. My wife’s symptoms are weakest of all, except she seems to have the biggest fatigue “whack”.)

Starting with trying to find a testing site that didn’t require a referral (as from a PCP) and ending with me never getting tested, due to some glitch on the computer no one could explain or correct, PLUS no one at the pharmacy involved knew where the nearest FedEx drop was (as we had to send in the sample ourselves)... At least the shipping label was preprinted. But, the whole experience was a great testimonial on how the bean counters and bureaucrats (private employees tho’ they may be) can gum things up. It was way too time consuming, irritating, frustrating, and ultimately in my case, ineffective. Even the appointment webpages bogged down my computer far more than any other website I’ve been on for some time. (It was barely useable, and that was after I’d exited all browsing, cleared all browsing history, killed all other apps, and went back to the signup page... As soon as I completed (I thought!) the signups and got off that God-forsaken website and re-cleared my browsing history, the computer was back to it’s normal self.

If this crud is anywhere near typical, I could easily see it reducing testing by 50%, even as actual infections look like UK’s.

Another problem is that need for a referral from a PCP. Do these test sites’ management not know how hard it is to get a quick reply from a PCP sometimes, in the midst of all this?

Also, this site has one self-test. I’ll bet a LOT of people screw that up.

I’m thinking of driving to an alternate site about 45 minutes away, tomorrow. They do the saliva test and get results to the “patient” back in 36-48 hours. But, they are the only such site (of many COVID-19 testing locations) within an hour of me.

:-(


162 posted on 10/19/2021 7:21:59 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

How are you and the family feeling today?

Even without a test confirmation, it is wise to start immediately throwing the kitchen sink at any potential COVID infection, to minimize the risks.

Vitamin D and Zinc, etc. I saw a good study that aspirin moderated the negative outcomes from COVID. Personally, I keep a half dozen liters of tonic water in stock, in case I feel symptoms. A liter has about the equivalent zinc ionophore activity as a Hydroxychloroquine tablet. Others prefer the over the counter supplement Quercetin to shuttle the zinc into the cells.

Getting good sleep is powerful for recovery, so doctors gave President Trump a large 10 mg. dose of melatonin (he is a big man) just before bed, when he was infected. They also gave him the over the counter drug famotidine (Pepcid), which moderates some of the symptoms of COVID.

The worse the case is, the more likely people are to suffer damages short of death, like lung scarring or long term fatigue. So do everything you can to keep the infection as much at bay as possible, until the immune system can shake it off.


163 posted on 10/20/2021 10:40:10 AM PDT by BeauBo
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