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To: DoodleDawg

I don’t see anything constructive in going straight to the racism card as you appear to do with your “...Apparently it’s the same for Black officers are well, based on other posts...” commentary. However, if you wish to pursue that, please copy and post anything I have ever posted that stated someone was an affirmative action hire, and I will provide you with the evidence, or what I see as the evidence.

If it wasn’t me who posted it, don’t bother, because I don’t buy into that. But just because I don’t buy into that based on race or sex alone doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, because it damn well does.

That said, from the perspective of these two female naval officers advanced during the Obama administration, for them it seems absolutely true that they were advanced through affirmative action.

I defy you to look at the service history of the people in both cases they were promoted over and come to any other conclusion. I have not done more than read a lengthy interview she gave some time ago to form my opinion on her based on the pap coming out of her mouth, but when Howard was promoted to four star admiral, I did indeed look up available service history information on her as well as the other officers being considered, and there was no question she was a political affirmative action hire.

Some people might say that pointing this out because she is both black and female makes me both a racist and a sexist, but I don’t have a problem backing up my assertion which I regard as accurate in both cases.

And it isn’t as if this is anything new in the US Navy either. Kara Hultgreen was a prime example, though I do feel she was trying to make it through on her own merits and not those of being a female. She just wasn’t good enough, and if she had been a male, would have been washed out, but they pushed her through, sadly for her. However, the female aviator (given an alias in the book to protect her identity, was Lt. Mary Louise Cummings) described in the book “Bogeys and Bandits: The Making of a Fighter Pilot” was an example of the toxic damage they were doing to the Navy by pushing people like her through because she was a woman. She was allowed to repeat errors (such as “Blue on Blue” kills which means shooting down your wingman or other friendly aircraft by accident) which would have washed any male pilot out. And she knew it. She KNEW the leverage that the politically correct leadership was handing to her.

So please forgive me if my refusal to accept less qualified people being shoehorned into slots (in a way that ensures a less qualified person will occupy it) where actual human life in the form of our valuable military personnel can be uselessly expended, and eventually, success in a conflict depends.

It isn’t like we didn’t just see that happen in utter failure in Afghanistan resulting in an exclamation point of 13 Marines losing their life because both the civilian head of the military as well as the military heads being far more interested in social experimentation and homosexuality advancement than they are in the lost lives of our sons, daughters, husbands, wives, mothers and fathers.

That is the exact same driving force, that killed those 13 Marines, that drives people to want to put women in combat roles, and to advance them for social purposes into roles they are less qualified or completely unqualified for.

And I don’t support it.


40 posted on 10/15/2021 1:47:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel
..Apparently it’s the same for Black officers are well, based on other posts...” commentary.

Wasn't that your view on Admiral Howard?

That said, from the perspective of these two female naval officers advanced during the Obama administration, for them it seems absolutely true that they were advanced through affirmative action.

And has there ever been a single female officer who wasn't advanced due to affirmative action? In your opinion, of course.

I defy you to look at the service history of the people in both cases they were promoted over and come to any other conclusion.

I don't know who they were promoted over, any more that I know who any given male admiral was promoted over. But looking at Admiral Phillips' career and comparing that with some of the current men admirals - thanks to navy.mil - it seems like she had the same kind of positions. But then again I keep forgetting that she just had to get all those jobs through affirmative action while every single male was promoted on merit alone.

So please forgive me if my refusal to accept less qualified people being shoehorned into slots (in a way that ensures a less qualified person will occupy it) where actual human life in the form of our valuable military personnel can be uselessly expended, and eventually, success in a conflict depends.

Then it gets back to my original question. In your perfect world wouldn't the only way to guarantee that a less qualified person is never placed in such a position is to ban women because they can never, ever, ever do the job as good as or better than a man can? If you did that then you would never have a ship run into another ship, never have an airplane crash, never have anything go wrong because guys would be running everything.

44 posted on 10/15/2021 2:27:41 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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