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California Is Banning Small Engines. Here's What It Means
The Drive ^ | 10/14/21 | Rob Stumpf

Posted on 10/15/2021 7:41:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: gundog

Certainly exceeds the 25hp threshold.


61 posted on 10/15/2021 8:33:06 AM PDT by RedElement
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To: Yo-Yo

Ridiculous!

I live on 22 acres in Indiana, not big by any means.

I have a bunch of gas powered equipment, two large riding mowers, two push mowers, roto tiller, chain saw, pole pruner, leaf blower, weed eater, snow blower, 4 wheel utility vehicle, generator, pressure washer. Battery powered equipment will not replace the gas powered.

I also have quite a bit of battery operated tools as well as electric tools.


62 posted on 10/15/2021 8:33:31 AM PDT by caver
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To: setter

No, pollution from a vehicle is still chemistry: When a hydrocarbon is burned there will always be CO2 and H2O released. Modern engines don’t produce so much of the other fractions like CO, C, and nitrogen compounds. A pint verses a tank full is a no-brainer.


63 posted on 10/15/2021 8:33:49 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: asinclair
More interesting to me, though, is that the SORE umbrella would include portable chain saws for forestry use, especially given the neglect California gives to its woodland -- or are they forgetting the wildfires of 2021? To my knowledge, there are no battery-powered equivalents to this necessary tool for fighting fires.

There are many homeowner grade battery powered chainsaws, the largest that I am familiar with has an 18" bar.

Some of these chainsaws have made great strides for homeowner use, and for occasional firewood or storm-clearing use are every bit as powerful as their gas-powered cousins.

But I know of no electric chainsaw with 24" or 36" bars suitable for commercial logging use.

64 posted on 10/15/2021 8:36:24 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: qam1

Ah, a square knot around the couplings can work miracles.


65 posted on 10/15/2021 8:38:49 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Yo-Yo

In fact, CARB says that running a leaf blower for an hour is equivalent to driving a 2017 Toyota Camry for 1,100 miles.

does anybody there even have a clue???


66 posted on 10/15/2021 8:39:40 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: NohSpinZone

Same. They’re quieter, less mess, less moving parts. Cheap enough that replacement trumps repair (cost of fixing ICE push mower = cost of replacing electric push mower), funny because the electrics last longer. Don’t have to run anywhere to get & transport nasty fluids. Can even charge via sunlight (have two 1m^2 portable solar panels) should power sourcing be a problem.


67 posted on 10/15/2021 8:40:02 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: fwdude

Let’s see, one - two moving parts, quiet, clean, major torque, easy maintenance, light weight, relatively inexpensive.

No, electric motors are not crap. Hells bells, freight trains are propelled by them and have been for quite some time.

It’s the energy store that’s the problem for now. That’s what’s crap. And with all the $100’s of Millions, being thrown at the problem, that will be solved eventually.


68 posted on 10/15/2021 8:40:07 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Yo-Yo

>>but the battery equipment has made great strides in recent years.

Those batteries will have to be replaced every 4-5 years, and likely it will make sense to just replace the whole mower. Meanwhile, my gas mower is over 10 years old.

You’d have a hard time convincing me this stuff is a major contributor to air pollution.

Good luck with those electric chainsaws when it comes time to cut trees for a wildfire fire break.

I foresee a brisk business in smuggled in gas engined equipment.


69 posted on 10/15/2021 8:40:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Yo-Yo

This could be the Republicans big chance in California, if they want to take advantage of it. All of those independent businessman who are largely Latino are potential Republicans, if the Democrats are determined to destroy their livelihood. Do you foresee Republicans seizing this moment, reaching out to them and joining their cause? No I don’t either. 🙄


70 posted on 10/15/2021 8:42:51 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: WMarshal

How come you didn’t just buy a cordless extension cord?


71 posted on 10/15/2021 8:43:46 AM PDT by New Perspective (#NotMyPresident -Proud father of a son with DS & fighting to keep him off biden's death panels.)
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To: AFreeBird

Electric motors provide a fraction of the power of combustion engines. You cannot convince me otherwise. I’ve used electric lawn mowers and blowers. They don’t come close to gas-powered.

Sure, electric has their uses, but its not on rigorous jobs that require powering through some tough shit.


72 posted on 10/15/2021 8:46:33 AM PDT by fwdude (Proudly UNvaxxed )
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To: I-ambush

‘I think they will require all generators to be electric-powered.’

you could be right; so fork over even more cash, you prospective new home builders...

12 grand for full house generator protection; 2500 bucks just for the hookup...


73 posted on 10/15/2021 8:47:18 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: GingisK; babygene; cymbeline

Edmunds is a pro fossil fuels automotive group and this is what they found from testing.

“The hydrocarbon emissions from a half-hour of yard work with the two-stroke leaf blower are about the same as a 3,900-mile drive from Texas to Alaska in a Raptor,” said Jason Kavanagh, Engineering Editor at Edmunds.com. “As ridiculous as it may sound, it is more ‘green’ to ditch your yard equipment and find a way to blow leaves using a Raptor.”

Leaf Blower’s Emissions Dirtier than High-Performance Pick-Up Truck’s, Says Edmunds’ InsideLine.com


74 posted on 10/15/2021 8:50:20 AM PDT by setter
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To: WMarshal

‘In the early 80s my dad bought an electric lawnmower with a cord.’

when I was kid my father made me use a walk behind reel mower on a large lawn, all the while trumpeting how wonderful it was we could never run out of gas...


75 posted on 10/15/2021 8:52:39 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Islasorna

We had one to. I did the same thing


76 posted on 10/15/2021 8:54:05 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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To: fwdude

Oh please, I’ve seen video of a Tesla sedan taking on a McLaren at a drag strip.

It wasn’t even close. The Tesla walked away from the mclaren.

See for yourself here: https://youtu.be/loUsRGW9z-I


77 posted on 10/15/2021 8:55:31 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Cold Heart

Yes, no!
The electrical implements are pretty good for home use. I ditched all my cord and gas equipment for yard and workshop use. No tangling with cords, no messy gas, no problems with starting the engine after long pause.
But, my Stihl commercial chainsaw is not replaceable, as well as almost all commercial use implements.
Obviously, the CA air resource board and Gov Newsom has no experience with heavy work outside. They may trim their little yard when the get home from paper pushing.

Luckily, the outdoor equipment lasts a long while.
Yuma and Quartzite in AZ will do great business in gas implements. So will do the dealers in Reno and Primm Nevada.


78 posted on 10/15/2021 8:56:09 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: Scrambler Bob

As a kid mowing with the electric mower hitting the cord was kind of the point.


79 posted on 10/15/2021 8:56:12 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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To: cableguymn

Recently I had a bush whacker, and sure enough, the cord got into it and cut lol. Corded power tools are a pain.


80 posted on 10/15/2021 8:56:21 AM PDT by Islasorna
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