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California Is Banning Small Engines. Here's What It Means
The Drive ^ | 10/14/21 | Rob Stumpf

Posted on 10/15/2021 7:41:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: Islasorna

Same here. The first time that it happened my dad just threw me a roll of black electrician’s tape and said f”Fix it.”


21 posted on 10/15/2021 7:58:00 AM PDT by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Yo-Yo

The only positive, which came from the global warming hoax is that the cordless equipment is now useful. The batteries are a lot better now than they used to be. I just replaced my cord lawnmower with cordless and have bunch of cordless stuff like trimmers, screwdrivers etc.
However that’s OK for home use.
For commercial use, I guess they have to haul a truckload of batteries. And, like chainsaws, there are none suitable for heavy commercial use.
When we will have blackouts, the electrical generators will surely come handy!
Joke!


22 posted on 10/15/2021 7:58:41 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: crusty old prospector

Gas powered yard equipment = Mexican bag pipes!
😂


23 posted on 10/15/2021 7:59:24 AM PDT by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: Yo-Yo
Never forget...

Newsom got 200,000 more votes in his Recall election than he got in 2018, when he ran for Governor.

24 posted on 10/15/2021 7:59:59 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Red Badger; Yo-Yo

...but then they’re not ‘generators’, just ‘energy storage’ devices. Just like cars, if you run out of gas you can bring more gas to the (stranded) vehicle. Unlike batteries, you have to either tow the vehicle to a charging station or bring some device (diesel generator!?) to the vehicle.

Gas is so energy dense and easy to store, unlike batteries, once dead you’re done.

This is a dumb policy. Their claims about a leaf blower vs. Camry miles is absurd if you’re talking about CO2, their main claim to ‘climate change’. They’d have to be referring to other gases.


25 posted on 10/15/2021 8:00:31 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Red Badger

Indeed


26 posted on 10/15/2021 8:00:42 AM PDT by I-ambush (If we make it we’ll all sit back and laugh, but I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying)
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To: cymbeline

“I have trouble believing that a leaf blower running for an hour using maybe a pint of fuel, pollutes more than a Camry over 1100 miles which, at 35 miles per gallon, would burn 31 gallons of fuel.”

I think it is about right. The pollution from modern cars is about nil. I have read these stats before from non enviro groups-manufacturing trade co’s about how much small engines pollute.

A friend has gas powered model aircraft using chainsaw engines. He tunes them up in his garage and can only run them for a few minutes before he has to leave. I have helped guys tune modern Camaros on the laptop in garages and we were in there for several hours and can barely smell the exhaust.


27 posted on 10/15/2021 8:01:23 AM PDT by setter
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To: WMarshal
Do you know how hard it is to mow a big lawn with an electric mower with and 18 inch cut width and an 30 foot extension cord?

I've been using electric mowers with cords since I was a kid in the early 70's . We had a mower with a handle that flipped over from rear to front. The cord was on the side of the power outlet & was always on the strip of lawn you just finished cutting. Very easy. Didn't have to store the gas in the garage or go to the gas station to fill up gas cans & lug them around.

When I first started mowing grass we had a gas powered, but since I used the electric, I've never bought another gas mower.

Having said that, I would not consider buying an electric vehicle.

28 posted on 10/15/2021 8:01:31 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Yo-Yo

And this will have zero effect on global climate change but it will have a tremendous effect for their advancement on their agenda.

Congratulations Colliefornia, if indeed you actually did vote to keep gov. Nuisance as dictator.


29 posted on 10/15/2021 8:01:43 AM PDT by patriot torch
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To: Yo-Yo

Out-of-state electricity generation companies should refuse to supply any electricity to California that has a fossil component. California should NOT be able to outsource its pollution to other states.


30 posted on 10/15/2021 8:03:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Yo-Yo

Small engines, like in lawnmowers for home use, cannot be compared to engines of motor vehicles used for transportation.

Most homeowners only use their mowers once a week, and perhaps every two weeks. In fall and winter, they’re not used as much. Whereas vehicles for transportation are used daily and perhaps for longer periods of time.

Apples and oranges. But, the climate change agenda has to take precedence, even if it won’t matter in the end.


31 posted on 10/15/2021 8:03:36 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Karliner

Yes, you simply plug it into itself. Why didn’t I think of that?


32 posted on 10/15/2021 8:03:39 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: Yo-Yo

So they’re thinking that replacing all of the gas powered small engines with battery powered ones that are now going to recharge on the the already overextended power grid is a good idea? At least we wont have to wonder what adding EVs will do to to the grid as this move will accelerate the failure. Lib solution will be to close more coal power plants and replace them with nothing.


33 posted on 10/15/2021 8:03:44 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (`)
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To: Tell It Right; I-ambush

Plug it in and it makes gas?


34 posted on 10/15/2021 8:03:55 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Yo-Yo

“but the battery equipment has made great strides in recent years.”

Maybe, but a Cub Cadet gas model is $2000 and the equivalent battery model is $4200.


35 posted on 10/15/2021 8:04:48 AM PDT by suthener ( )
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To: Yo-Yo

I’ve replaced my Stihl edger with Makita (I already have Makita 18v stuff in the shop). And I have a Makita 36V chainsaw that is great, although I am keeping my Stihl for when I need to do a lot of work, since it would take a LOT of batteries to match the energy contained in a gallon of gas.

But the battery stuff is much easier on the ears and lungs; I can get going on the yardwork at sunup without bothering the neighbors. I’ll replace the string trimmer and blower when they die with Makita.

Feel for the commercial companies, though. And CARB is a major pain in the butt overall, obviously they should be disbanded and ruled unconstitutional, but that ain’t happening.


36 posted on 10/15/2021 8:05:51 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Yo-Yo

I think small off road engines will start getting more powerful, raising their output to above 25hp to avoid the regulation.


37 posted on 10/15/2021 8:06:13 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Yo-Yo
I think there is a bit of hysteria evident in this article thread. FTA: "CARB officially defines SOREs as off-road spark-ignition engines that produce 25 horsepower or less." Always remember that lawyers (and good legislators) are very careful with their words. In this case, the key is "spark-ignition".

Worried about backup generator capability? The SORE umbrella does not include diesel. I would also expect that turbine-driven generators would not be included. How about propane- and natural-gas-fired equipment? Yes, not available at the local ACE hardware store, or at Home Depot/Lowes.

More interesting to me, though, is that the SORE umbrella would include portable chain saws for forestry use, especially given the neglect California gives to its woodland -- or are they forgetting the wildfires of 2021? To my knowledge, there are no battery-powered equivalents to this necessary tool for fighting fires.

I think it's clear that they are targetting lawn maintenance tools more than anything else, especially two-cycle engines.

38 posted on 10/15/2021 8:07:28 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: metmom

We now have so many ‘Spare The Air’ days where you can’t burn that they don’t need to technically ‘ban’ them. Bastards.


39 posted on 10/15/2021 8:07:29 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Whatever. I have battery-operated lawn mower and blowers. Not because I’m an eco-tool but because I don’t like the smell of gas and battery versions seem quieter to me.


40 posted on 10/15/2021 8:07:57 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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