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Yes, It Really is as You’ve Been Informed about How Bad It Now is in Australia.
Gris Ask Guys ^ | 10/8/2021 | Rachelspiks

Posted on 10/09/2021 2:01:01 PM PDT by simpson96

This is for all of you who have recently been wondering, “What the hell is going on down there?”, in the nation within the map above. The rumours you may have heard, along with many news reports, have recently portrayed the situation here as being dire and dark, without hope, describing a nation goose-stepping into totalitarianism. Those rumours, those reports, are basically correct.(snip)

I will attempt to give a rather brief summary in point form of the situation as it currently is within this ‘MyTake’, because to do otherwise, to attempt to go into detail, would entail writing a book.

1. Freedom of speech is dead. It’s gone, it simply doesn’t exist anymore. For evidence of this fact, I present the following true story -

The link is to a video that is owned by ABC News, a source that is a state-run (yes, you saw that correctly – state run) channel that is so left-wing that it makes others like the BBC, CNN, and MSNBC seem as though they’re run by reasonable, conservative libertarians. If you’re the type of person who values truth and honesty, and you don’t accept the official narrative about the virus and openly say so on social media, you can expect “visitors” to your house who will place nice, shiny jewellery on your wrists.

2. An endless sequence of ‘lockdowns’, one after another, that serve no discernable purpose.(snip)

3. A state government in Victoria that is authoritarian, irresponsible, incompetent and arrogant beyond belief.(snip)

4. ‘Freedom Day’.(snip)

5. Pepper spray, batons and rubber bullets.(snip)

6. A mainstream media that is positively Goebbelesque in its presentation of the news. Peaceful demonstrators are openly demonised, and referred to as being “right-wing anti-vaxxers”, even though there is precisely zero evidence for either charge.

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KEYWORDS: australia; authoritarian; fascism; policestate; repression; tyranny
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To: knarf

“Our salvation will be because we are armed.”

Only if we learn to stand together.


21 posted on 10/09/2021 3:41:27 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: Aussiebabe

“You actually have a fascist Federal Government.”

There was a time when I would have argued with you but with every passing day your assessment is more and more correct.

Textbook fascism is an economic system based on dirigisme where the central government holds a stake in key private industries and tells them what to make. Then the government shares in the profits and of course taxes said profits.

Small businesses such as bakeries are typically allowed some autonomy but price controls can become an issue in fascism.

The US entered into the early stages of fascism when the government started manipulating the manufacturing sector into producing “green” products over cheaper and more widely available products. So far this act of a command economy has been a failure like any other act of a command economy.

We are also lurching into authoritarianism and sadly too many people right here on Free Republic celebrate when police officers invent and enforce laws or otherwise violate the rights of people who have not committed crimes. The most frequent offense committed by our police is “Show me your ID or I’ll arrest you for something!”

Also known as “Show me your papers!”

Australia preceded the US into fascism with orders about green energy, half of cars to be electric by 2030, and etc.

Authoritarianism is a separate matter from fascism. Fascism doesn’t have to be authoritarian but an authoritarian state is inevitably required to enforce government control of industry and the market.

Australia has passed the US when it comes to being an authoritarian state. It is perhaps even to the point of being a dictatorship given that much of your population currently lives under dictatorial rules that do not actually exist in law.

Don’t take that from me, take it from someone who knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B_CYLPP_vE

Oh, and even though she resigned the bastards who run her old department are now ‘investigating’ her with the intent to imprison her for speaking out against the regime.

The worst thing in Australia that signifies a slide into dictatorship is the fact that right now most Australians are not allowed to leave Australia. Yes, I’ve heard a lot of bullsh!t excuses for this like health orders and etc. but the simple fact is that anyone who LEAVES Australia is no longer a threat to the health of anyone remaining.

The excuses why Australians are inmates in the world’s largest prison sound like the crap we all used to hear from the USSR about why people were not allowed to leave.

Honestly, holding people against their will is the proverbial Rubicon that Australia has now crossed on the slide into dictatorship.

You’re ahead of us on this.

But we’re not far behind when our FBI is being mobilized to investigate and threaten people who speak up against Marxist-dominated school boards or who try to organize recall elections of said school boards.

The one difference between us is that were things here as bad as they are where you are then people like Daniel Andrews and Gladys Berejiklian would be assuming room temperature by now. We have not surrendered our weapons and we also have a cultural willingness to use them if needed.

As a statement of this difference we have the recent example of a man who defended himself against violent, out of control criminals with badges and guns who were admittedly out “hunting” for people to indiscriminately shoot. This man shot back at the bastards, was savagely beaten when he surrendered to said bastards, charged with crimes, prosecuted, and a jury said that he was correct to defend himself from the bastards with badges and guns.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/09/05/acquitted-minneapolis-man-who-shot-at-cops-cleared-after-his-lawyer-argues-self-defense-1129914/

Who’s going to shoot back at the bastards oppressing Australians?

So while I think you folks are quantitatively further into repressive authoritarianism than we are I will also say that it’s looking like a horse race to see who gets to the “Mein Kampf/Communist Manifesto” level first.


22 posted on 10/09/2021 3:49:12 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The truth about Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TjgGJHDVxo)
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To: Aussiebabe

The Colonies did get some prisoners but many more were indentured servants and those that came of their own free will.


23 posted on 10/09/2021 3:56:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: BenLurkin

Marxism, pure and simple.


24 posted on 10/09/2021 4:07:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Aussiebabe

Good on ya!

I think it’s schadenfreude. Things are so bad in the US they appreciate having aussies to sling off on. One day soon, we’ll be over this plandemic, but the US will still have their corrupt democrat party and their fraud-elections.


25 posted on 10/09/2021 4:12:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: JoJo354

That is what I meant, PBS is leftist and has been for a long time.


26 posted on 10/09/2021 4:26:16 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: simpson96

The thing that gets me is how the Prime Minister REFUSES to even be bothered by the PURE FASCISM that the people in Victoria are living under.

I realize that, technically, he may not be able to stop it, given their federal system, but he doesn’t have to enjoy* watching his citizens be under that level of abuse either.

*and if he doesn’t enjoy it, then perhaps he should speak up.


27 posted on 10/09/2021 4:31:31 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: MercyFlush
“Australia preceded the US into fascism with orders about green energy, half of cars to be electric by 2030, and etc.”
That is news to me, where did you read that? Labor had a policy to do that from Bill Shorten and partly lost the election because of that proposal, I believe that Labor has now dropped that proposal. I agree with you about not being allowed to leave the country, that is changing now in December when we will be allowed to leave the country.

The new NSW Premier is much more conservative than he old one that just resigned. ABC and the media is already attacking him for being conservative.

We have not surrendered our weapons. There are more guns now in Australia than before the restrictions were put in place and the average gun owner has more guns. It is true that fewer households own guns.

28 posted on 10/09/2021 4:36:02 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: DJ MacWoW
Please read the history of the sending of prisoners to America by the UK. The UK sent all of them to America until the Revolution War. It was only because that the USA was established, that Australia was formed as a penal colonies. The British sent so many prisoners to America, that they had to keep some of them in ships in New York harbor.

“Australians and Americans More Alike Than They Think
Between 50,000 and 120,000 British convicts were transported to America, a fact that makes many Americans “incredulous,” says Railton. This is often because convicts were politely referred to as “servants.”” https://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/the-untold-lives-of-british-convicts-sold-to-america/ It is estimated that about 160,000 prisoners were sent to Australia after 1788 all the way to 1888, so relatively speaking, many more prisoners were sent to America.

29 posted on 10/09/2021 4:43:26 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: BobL

He has spoken up and has been criticizing Andrews for over a year. Here is just one older article: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-criticises-victoria-s-delay-on-easing-coronavirus-rules/492de6bc-963d-44e2-bcad-567502de845b Basically they hate each other. However, I agree that Morrison is too “soft” and should be much more conservative, especially he should speak out against ABC.


30 posted on 10/09/2021 4:55:04 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

It’s been going on for years, this slinging off at us for ‘giving up our guns’ - I don’t believe anyone really cares about aussies being able to defend themselves against our government, what they really fear is losing their own freedoms. Heaven knows the US citizen has a much greater need for self-defense than we do in Oz.
I stopped trying to explain the social differences between us a very long time ago. The idea that we might shoot a health official with whom we disagree, or law enforcement personnel for one reason or another is foreign to the aussie spirit. We aren’t about to play cowboys and indians in the outback, or lynch rustlers.
Our history and founding has little in common.
As you rightly point out, there are more guns now amongst the population than before the buy-back scheme introduced when certain weapons were outlawed.
Gun deaths in Oz caused by suicide have iirc, always exceeded criminal causes. And deaths as the result of law enforcement (apprehending/protection against dangerous individuals) have also been included in Oz total gun deaths.

Deaths from snake bite, shark attacks, lightning strikes, drowning and falling out of trees far exceed gun deaths in Oz. Our increased regulations resulted from two mass-shooting incidents and were an over-reaction - but a welcome one, Australians aren’t whinging about their gun laws. Americans are.
And that’s because they NEED their weapons and are afraid of losing them. If I lived in certain parts of the US, the first thing I would do upon arrival is buy a gun!


31 posted on 10/09/2021 5:02:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: MercyFlush
Textbook fascism is an economic system based on dirigisme where the central government holds a stake in key private industries and tells them what to make.

Now there's a word you don't see every day. I never heard William F. Buckley Jr. use it, either. (Of course, I didn't watch his show that often.)

32 posted on 10/09/2021 5:11:52 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Aussiebabe
I didn't deny that it happened so I don't understand what your problem is. I simply said there were also indentured servants and freedom lovers coming to the Colonies.

Between 50,000 and 120,000 British convicts

Let me know when they land on a number they like.

33 posted on 10/09/2021 5:36:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

List of convicts transported to Australia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Penal transportation to Australia began with the arrival of the First Fleet in 1788 and ended in 1868. Overall, approximately 165,000 convicts were transported to Australia.
List of convicts transported to Australia - Wikipedia


34 posted on 10/09/2021 5:44:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wiki is unreliable however, that poster was talking about the American Colonies.


35 posted on 10/09/2021 5:48:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The information re convicts sent to Australia come from government archives. You can check them out if you doubt their validity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation

From the early 1600s until the American Revolution of 1776, the British colonies in North America received transported British criminals. Destinations were the island colonies of the West Indies and the mainland colonies[failed verification] that became the United States of America.[56]

In the 17th century transportation was carried out at the expense of the convicts or the shipowners. The Transportation Act 1717 allowed courts to sentence convicts to seven years’ transportation to America. In 1720, an extension authorized payments by the Crown to merchants contracted to take the convicts to America. The Transportation Act made returning from transportation a capital offence.[50][57] The number of convicts transported to North America is not verified: John Dunmore Lang has estimated 50,000, and Thomas Keneally has proposed 120,000. Maryland received a larger felon quota than any other province.[58] Many prisoners were taken in battle from Ireland or Scotland and sold into indentured servitude, usually for a number of years.


36 posted on 10/09/2021 6:07:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Don't know why you are denying that so many convicts were sent to America by the British. That history is easily found everywhere if you do a search. As I wrote, the only reason they stopped sending convicts to America was because of the Revoutinary War. The article I posted was not from Wikipedia but from the American Ancestry https://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/the-untold-lives-of-british-convicts-sold-to-america/#:~:text=Between%2050%2C000%20and%20120%2C000%20British,referred%20to%20as%20%E2%80%9Cservants.%E2%80%9D Also see this article from the UK: https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/articles/the-land-of-the-free-criminal-transportation-to-america/ By the way, not all the Australian states had convicts, just like the USA. For example South Australia was a non-convict state settled by religious people.
37 posted on 10/09/2021 6:20:08 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Fred Nerks
There was no debate on my part about the numbers sent to Australia. The "debate" was about the American Colonies.

The number of convicts transported to North America is not verified: John Dunmore Lang has estimated 50,000, and Thomas Keneally has proposed 120,000.

In other words, they're guessing.

Many prisoners were taken in battle from Ireland or Scotland and sold into indentured servitude, usually for a number of years.

Which is what I said to the other poster.

38 posted on 10/09/2021 6:21:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Fred Nerks
Yes, I think you are correct. If we moved to the USA, the first thing we would do too, is to buy some guns. It is so violent and dangerous there if you are living in the far-left major cities. I remembered when you could go to San Francisco or New York City and it was clean and no homeless living everywhere and basically much of the USA has become a dump. It is OK is most of the rural area. We used to travel to the USA once a year, but have no plans to return now with such an autocratic government and dangerous conditions.
39 posted on 10/09/2021 6:23:28 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

Yea, that was good, but what set me off more than the lockdown approach was the way the lockdowns were used to stifle political dissent. The lockdowns themselves were one of many approaches tried in the world - pretty much proven stupid within a few months, but understandable that at least some places would keep pushing it.

But then the clubbing of people peacefully protesting the lockdowns got into things you see in Third World and Communist countries. Particularly because the protests themselves, assuming open-air outdoor, were not going to spread the virus (literally impossible), so the head-cracking wasn’t in support of the policy, it was to SILENCE those who wanted their voices heard.

Very sad for your country and disappointing to a lot of Americans that looked at you guys as a place to go hide, should things get really bad in the US and Europe...but I guess not.

(and no, I’ll never defend the US, we are way beyond clubbing certain people who oppose the government...we just throw them in jail for a year with no bail or anything - and then, for selected groups, they can shoot up schools, get arrested, and then set free the next day, as happened in Dallas in this week)


40 posted on 10/09/2021 6:24:40 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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