Posted on 10/04/2021 8:46:31 PM PDT by NautiNurse
Florida fugitive Brian Laundrie’s sister told protesters outside her Lakewood Ranch home Monday that her family has been ignoring her following the disappearance of her brother and the death of his fiancée.
When asked if her parents were helping Brian Laundrie evade authorities, she said, "I don't know" and that she hadn't been able to speak with them.
"I'm in the boat where I'm getting ignored by my family and thrown under the bus by my family's attorney," Cassie Laundrie said to a group of protesters Monday in video shared by TikTok user @chroniclesofolivia.
The lawyer Laundrie seemed to be referencing, Steve Bertolino blamed the media. "I do not represent Cassie Laundrie," he told Fox News Digital in a text message Monday night. "Cassie’s comments can only be attributed to the press twisting my words and hers, which were only given to clarify prior mischaracterizations by the press, with the hopes of further sensationalizing this tragic story."
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"We are just as upset, frustrated and heartbroken as everybody else," Cassie Laundrie and her husband told the crowd. "I am losing my parents and my brother and my children’s aunt and future sister-in-law on top of this."
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Nope. Your conjecture is based on a falsehood. That's not when he was scratched or when her face was scratched. It was outside Moonflower.
I think I know where Brian went. Cassie’s husband ate him.
> > and the lawyer lost touch with brian.
? The above is an assumption.
Maybe, but the alternative is also an assumption (as you admit below). In addition, the lawyer would lose his law license and risk criminal arrest and conviction if he violated the law by aiding and abetting a fugitive for whatever small sum he might be receiving from brian’s parents, who do not appear to be rich (in the kennedy family sense of the term).
> > To my recollection, there is no informed public allegation that brian’s lawyer advised brian to break any law.
> Lawyer-client privilege would prevent such information being public.
Quite so, which undermines your first point, and also adds to my seondary point that this law is probably very difficult to enforce in practice, including in this particular case (again however for reasons i explain above, i do not consider it likely that the lawyer has any sufficient monetary motivation to go out on a limb for brian).
brian may or may not be guilty of manslaughter/murder. however, i believe that it helps to look at both sides of the issue thoroughly before making a decision. this is what a good defense lawyer would do as a matter of course. this is what a good prosecutor would do. this is what the trial court process is designed to do.
regrettably many cases tend to be tried first and foremost in the court of public opinion, before any trial takes place. i don’t think it does any good to try anyone in the court of public opinion, no matter who they are or how guilty they might at first glance appear to be in public before a trial concludes with a verdict.
FR is not a criminal trial court.
I don’t own FR but in my opinion FR should be used to determine that someone is guilty of a capital crime before they have had their chance to prove their innocence in trial court. and certainly not before they have even been formally charged of a capital crime.
if we begin to make exceptions and selectively dispense with principles of law such as trial by jury of peers altogether, i believe that it eventually leads back to living in caves and worse.
> What are you, Brian’s uncle?
No, at least to the best of my knowledge. Again, explain brian’s parents’ behavior. Are you gabby’s aunt?
> Nope. Your conjecture is based on a falsehood. That’s not when he was scratched or when her face was scratched. It was outside Moonflower.
I’m not reading every single article but i did go over the utah police intervention somewhat. please point me to an article describing what you allude to and i will go read it.
I watched the complete first officer body-cam and part of the second officer body-cam that was released last week.
SERIOUSLY?
I think that, in your fictional conjecture, you should make the real murderer be a one-armed man.
Therein lies a conundrum. The police officer who drove BL to the hotel told Brian how much better his own life was after his wife was medicated for anxiety.
The police report omits the 911 caller who described Brian hitting Gabby twice.
Your own recollection omits that Gabby had an injury to her face, described as BL grabbing her face. Brian admitted to doing same.
Did I neglect to discuss the chummy fist bump between BL and the LEO who offered to get BL a free hotel room for the night?
Did I forget to mention the Moab Chief of Police is taking a leave of absence during the external investigation into LEO actions during this incident?
Then you have several acts that seem to confirm his guilt- he fled the area in her car, and he refused to help her family -even anonymously- find her body.
Using common sense and typical behavior, when someone you love is attacked by strangers, the impulse is to get help immediately. When you are the one who harms a loved one, the impulse is to run and hide.
> I think that, in your fictional conjecture, you should make the real murderer be a one-armed man.
OK, that is funny, but all it does is prove that I am old... maybe too old... lol...
> I made no assumptions. You did.
> FR is an opinion forum. We give our opinions.
Regardless of when brian was hit, he had some injury to his face while gabby had no obvious injuries. gabby admitted to hitting him. brian said gabby hit him. gabby admitted to grabbing the steering wheel and making the moving van bump the curb. brian said the same.
all that is consistent with gabby being the abuser and brian being the victim. Yes, there is the 911 call or even calls, but random eyewitness accounts must be balanced with physical evidence, first party interview responses, and LE eyewitness accounts.
Are you saying that brian hurt himself? Are you saying that gabby did not grab the wheel of the moving van? Are you saying that both gabby and brian made stuff up on the fly while awaiting the police to approach the van on foot and acted so convincingly that the police were fooled? What are you saying?
And how do you explain the parents’ odd behavior?
Fat nation
Wrong again. Watch the second officers body-cam. Until you have more information debating you is useless.
> Your own recollection omits that Gabby had an injury to her face, described as BL grabbing her face. Brian admitted to doing same.
Hmmm. Well, yes that would undermine earlier point that the only physical damage was to brian’s face.
> Did I neglect to discuss the chummy fist bump between BL and the LEO who offered to get BL a free hotel room for the night?
Hmmm. Could go either way, but not cool if brian is the instigator as the 911 tape suggests.
> Did I forget to mention the Moab Chief of Police is taking a leave of absence during the external investigation into LEO actions during this incident?
Hmmm. An indication that something is possibly not cool with the report and handling.
Ok, none of that seems at least at first glance to support brian.
Still, I am trying to make sense of brian’s parents’ behavior. It seems above and beyond “protecting the nest.” Normal parents imho would naturally suggest brian turn himself in and not allegedly help brian cover his tracks or allegedly clam up during police inquiries. That may all be secondary, but I still wonder.
Thanks for pointing out those problems with the utah police intervention. i also recall that my very first take was that the utah police had some explaining to do. i think i even posted that in a response somewhere. i tried to go over it a second time but apparently i may have come away with a wrong impression.
please see my previous response to NautiNurse.
sorry to have missed that if so. i did not sit through the entire video cam. i’m not sure now how i came to get the impression that only brian had injuries. aarrgghh.
(brian keeps getting more difficult to defend... oh well...)
Two thoughts, 1) They don't lack for food. 2) The parents seem pretty bad.
At this point, we have a lot of suspicion and few facts other than Gabby's death is a homicide, Brian ran and is in hiding, Brian has a temper (per the restaurant witnesses).
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