[Empire_of_Liberty]

This is just political masturbation.

We can’t even make school boards work. Conservatives suck at enemy identification. We’ve made this mess by feeding hoards of tapeworms with our taxes. People vote for “safety nets” which mean crooked government and then act all surprised that government is crooks.

If you’re not even going to clean up the mess in your own state, then talk of secession is just an escapist fantasy.

[cgbg]

If you’re not even going to clean up the mess in your own state, then talk of secession is just an escapist fantasy.

Correct. That means you, Georgia. That means you, Arizona.

etc etc

[Kevmo]

Secession was an escapist fantasy for the slave states at one time. They gave it a hard try.

We fought a civil war over 4 million slaves, lost 600k Americans to that war. Now the proposal is peacable secession, with an eye towards the 30 Million INDENTURED SERVANTS here illegally as colonizers, and the 60 Million dead babies sacrificed to the Moloch god of convenience.

I don't think it's just an escapist fantasy.