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To: dragnet2

I’m not buying all that. That would involved thousands of people. We can’t even keep secrets from the Communist Chinese or Russia. The run of the mill commuter geeks have hack this government and nearly everyone else. And with humans, 3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead. Otherwise ferrget about it.

You can keep almost anything a secret by using two methods : discredit the leak and leaker and, make it clear there will be a fatal accident involving the leaker and family. The NDA’s citing large fines and years of felony prison time help also.

There is also the fact that almost all of the people who work on those sorts of things are patriots who would never disclose any secret, and compartmentalization keeps all but a few from seeing the whole picture - most only see the part they are working on.

Rich was one of the very few who saw the whole picture (or most of it), but whether the quotes attributed to him are true is another question. Like the Neil Armstrong quote, about aliens on the moon watching them from a crater rim, made during an appearance at a school - no actual documentation has ever been found, as far as I know.

I’d like to believe Rich’s quotes, but then I’d also have to believe there is a separate culture born out of black project money which is space-faring, has colonies on Mars and elsewhere ; a culture that remains hidden from everyone.

Here’s one article I was able to find :
Lockheed CEO Ben Rich Declared On His Death Bed: Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real (September 16, 2016)
Based on an article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal by Tom Keller, an aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems analyst for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
https://bendedreality.com/lockheed-ceo-ben-rich-declared-on-his-death-bed-extraterrestrial-ufo-are-real/

Interestingly, the last part of the quotes - if you read the article, point to the real possibility of zero pint propulsion.
See this YouTube video about an US Air Force illustrator (who has been soundly ruined, trashed and debunked - using methods mentioned above)

Classified Anti Gravity Craft (as described by Mark McCandlish USAF illustrator) - James Allen (skip to 6m, 27)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBdS8jiTM6E

See here for more on this article :
Skunk Works Boss Says He Can’t Comment On Video Of Mysterious Stealth Shape At Radar Test Range
The Skunk Works head separately said digital engineering has reduced aircraft build times by two-thirds as business has exploded in recent years.
By Joseph Trevithick September 29, 2021
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42568/skunk-works-boss-says-he-cant-comment-on-video-of-mysterious-stealth-shape-at-radar-test-range


51 posted on 10/02/2021 5:41:48 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Thanks very much to the link to the youtube of the anti grav craft.

I watched that several years ago but lost the link. I looked for it recently when the fighter pilots were talking about their encounters with tic tacs.


54 posted on 10/02/2021 6:33:51 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: PIF

So, I worked on a classified USAF/NASA project from 1988-1993 regarding space: the National Aerospace Plane Project. Naturally, I was only read into those aspects dealing with that program, but at Wright Pat I dealt with all sorts of space people who were involved in the highest elements of orbital travel, space, & so on. (The Aerospace Plane was planned to be a single-stage-to-orbit vehicle using scramjets to achieve orbit via the atmosphere).

They were pretty skeptical of “space” explanations, but let on that we had some much more advanced stuff, including the plane that had a “puff” and shot forward at phenomenal speeds, before the next “puff.” Can’t remember the nickname for that, but Aviation Week had pictures.

Anyway, that’s my limited experience. And Lockheed was one of the eight original contractors on NASP, but was eliminated after 2 years in the program.


57 posted on 10/02/2021 6:45:02 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: PIF
If you believe all this BS below, I don't know what to tell ya.

I'm not buying any of it. No sale.☺

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“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do it.” “We now have technology to take ET home. We now have the capability to travel to the stars.”

60 posted on 10/02/2021 11:42:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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